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Title: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 01, 2010, 10:35:23 PM
Here's a Parker Stevenson/HB site that has a few sound clips from Season 3, the "lost" season....

There are only a few and short. However, enjoy!

http://1forparker.tripod.com/parkerstevenson/id6.html

Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on June 02, 2010, 04:28:38 PM
Cool! Nice find. After watching "Search for Atlantis" on the officially released VHS I ordered a while back, it's only left me wanting to see the rest of Season 3- but I'm still wanting to steel myself and see the whole thing on an official release- like on DVD. (But at this point, I'm about ready to watch off of Youtube if someone actually posts the rest of the episodes. (I know "The Last Kiss of Summer" [Parts 1 and 2] is on there already- I'm trying to be patient...)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 02, 2010, 07:08:38 PM
Thanks. :)

Ugh! Isn't it super frustrating??! I just changed to At&t U verse and saw that the Hardy Boys are playing on channel 48. It's on Sunday so I don't know which episode it is (the info has a generic summary). I am hoping it is a Season 3 episode but I'm not getting my hopes up. I really hope the powers that be distribute the DVD within the next year. I don't know what they are waiting for. There are lots of people who would definitely buy it.

Also, please tell me how you got a VHS copy of an episode???

I have seen the Last Kiss of Summer part 1 and 2 on Youtube. It's not the best quality but it's definitely better than nothing. I was hoping that same person would upload more but nothing new is up yet. After reading about that season, there are parts I am really looking forward to and others I'm not sure I will like. For instance, the boys aren't together as much which always seems odd to me. I understand getting separate clues but maybe for an afternoon...not the whole investigation. Oh well...either way I am REALLY looking forward to finally seeing it. I fear I will be at my first (not yet born) child's graduation before it comes out.  :'(
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on June 03, 2010, 12:44:10 AM
Well, a number of The Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew episodes were released to VHS by Universal in 1985. (Most all of the 1st. season episodes for both the Hardys and Nancy and some 2nd. season Hardy Boys episode as well one of the few solo Nancy Drew episodes of the 2nd. season.) In 1987, Goodtimes Home Video got the license from Universal and released 2 more episodes- another of the few 2nd. season solo Nancy Drew episodes ("The Lady on Thursday at Ten") and a 3rd. season episode of The Hardy Boys- ("Search for Atlantis").
(The Hardy Boys Wiki has a pretty good page detailing all of these releases if you're interested.) Those VHS tapes are how I first got introduced to the series- I loved the books and I borrowed all the episodes available on VHS from my local library back when I was younger.
I got a copy of "Search for Atlantis" on Amazon.com (there's one for sale now for about 7 bucks)- but you can probably find it on Ebay too.
http://www.amazon.com/Hardy-Boys-Search-Atlantis/dp/B00069KJX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1275543504&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on June 03, 2010, 01:04:40 AM
By the way- the pictures, descriptions and sound files on that site were great!!! Of course, that really just served to make me want to see the rest of Season 3 all the more! Come on, Universal- just 10 more episodes on DVD to finish The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries series! :-\
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: SDLagent on June 03, 2010, 01:50:21 AM
You can watch the two-episode premiere of Season Three, "The Last Kiss of Summer" on YouTube. Unfortunately, it's very poor quality, but it's better then nothing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XlnKjpD-Bk
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on June 03, 2010, 11:02:38 AM
QuoteI just changed to At&t U verse and saw that the Hardy Boys are playing on channel 48. It's on Sunday so I don't know which episode it is (the info has a generic summary).
That's cool that the show is back on TV again somewhere. I don't think The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries show has aired since TV Land was playing it for a little while back around 1999-2000 or so...
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 03, 2010, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on June 03, 2010, 12:44:10 AM
Well, a number of The Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew episodes were released to VHS by Universal in 1985. (Most all of the 1st. season episodes for both the Hardys and Nancy and some 2nd. season Hardy Boys episode as well one of the few solo Nancy Drew episodes of the 2nd. season.) In 1987, Goodtimes Home Video got the license from Universal and released 2 more episodes- another of the few 2nd. season solo Nancy Drew episodes ("The Lady on Thursday at Ten") and a 3rd. season episode of The Hardy Boys- ("Search for Atlantis").
(The Hardy Boys Wiki has a pretty good page detailing all of these releases if you're interested.) Those VHS tapes are how I first got introduced to the series- I loved the books and I borrowed all the episodes available on VHS from my local library back when I was younger.
I got a copy of "Search for Atlantis" on Amazon.com (there's one for sale now for about 7 bucks)- but you can probably find it on Ebay too.
http://www.amazon.com/Hardy-Boys-Search-Atlantis/dp/B00069KJX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1275543504&sr=8-1

Wow thanks for the info!!! I am heading over there right away! :)

Quote from: MacGyver on June 03, 2010, 01:04:40 AM
By the way- the pictures, descriptions and sound files on that site were great!!! Of course, that really just served to make me want to see the rest of Season 3 all the more! Come on, Universal- just 10 more episodes on DVD to finish The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries series! :-\

Glad you liked them! I love when I find something new (or new to me)! However, it had the same affect on me too! It's frustrating me even MORE to not have Season 3 at my fingertips. I recently read that Netflix had Season 3 for watching instantly but it's not on there anymore. Good sign or bad sign? Hmm...there is more of a description than before though...

Quote from: SDLagent on June 03, 2010, 01:50:21 AM
You can watch the two-episode premiere of Season Three, "The Last Kiss of Summer" on YouTube. Unfortunately, it's very poor quality, but it's better then nothing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XlnKjpD-Bk

Yeah the quality is bleh but definitely better than nothing!

Quote from: MacGyver on June 03, 2010, 11:02:38 AM
That's cool that the show is back on TV again somewhere. I don't think The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries show has aired since TV Land was playing it for a little while back around 1999-2000 or so...

Yes, it is VERY cool! :) I was shocked at first and then jumping up and down when I found it on my guide. I will have to follow up in a few days and let you know what episode it was. I don't care which one obviously but season 3 would be preferred. :D
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on June 03, 2010, 07:29:18 PM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on June 02, 2010, 07:08:38 PM
I am hoping it is a Season 3 episode but I'm not getting my hopes up. I really hope the powers that be distribute the DVD within the next year. I don't know what they are waiting for. There are lots of people who would definitely buy it.

I'd like to see Season 3 on DVD as well, but from what I've been able to find out, Season 2 wasn't exactly a "hot" enough seller for Universal to consider releasing Season 3.

However Shout! Factory has acquired the license to several Universal shows, so it could be that the license for The Hardy Boys Season 3 on DVD is with Shout right now, which might be a good thing, considering that they've restarted a lot of stalled Universal TV-on-DVD series such as Adam-12 and Dragnet 1967/68/69/70.

So you might want to send emails or letters to Universal and Shout asking them to release the final season.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on June 03, 2010, 10:00:12 PM
Thanks for the info, dude. Yeah- I'm seriously thinking I'm gonna contact both to see what they say on it.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 04, 2010, 12:24:57 PM
I actually emailed Shout! Factory a few months ago. At that time, they had no desire or ability to release Season 3. I might even still have the email. The person did say to check back though...so let us know what you find out if you contact them.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on June 04, 2010, 02:51:17 PM
Will do.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on June 05, 2010, 06:04:51 PM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on June 04, 2010, 12:24:57 PM
I actually emailed Shout! Factory a few months ago. At that time, they had no desire or ability to release Season 3. I might even still have the email. The person did say to check back though...so let us know what you find out if you contact them.

Well Shout does have their own forum, so it might be a good idea to keep an eye out there incase they announce it there first.

But one thing that might be holding Season 3 up from being released by other DVD studios is that it is the only season left to release.  So the studio would only have 1 release with the series instead of the possibility of 2 or more releases (unless they enter into a distribution deal to distribute the whole series on DVD in a complete collection, like Shout did with Leave It To Beaver where up to Season 2 or 3 had been released by its original studio, but then shout only acquired the distribution rights to those seasons only for inclusion in the complete set, so Shout could not distribute those Seasons by themselves outside of the complete series).
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 06, 2010, 02:19:36 PM
If you ask me, it's just a bunch of crap. They should just release it and be done with it. I hope they are not waiting for the Hardy Men movie to come out in 2012. I will still buy it but I really don't know how much the movie will help its sales in the first place.

Update on TV watching....Sole Survivor "aired" today! It was the first episode I watched on Youtube and was HOOKED. So even though it wasn't Season 3, it was still exciting. The info for the episode did not appear until yesterday I think. That means I won't know about next week's until right before it airs. Weird....
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on June 06, 2010, 11:08:36 PM
QuoteUpdate on TV watching....Sole Survivor "aired" today! It was the first episode I watched on Youtube and was HOOKED. So even though it wasn't Season 3, it was still exciting.
Cool! Well, I would think the channel would have the rights to air all 3 seasons, so I guess if the next episode that airs is "Voodoo Doll" (Part 1)- then I guess they're going in order. And maybe they will get to the Season 3 Hardy Boys episodes. I can see why it's only being aired once a week- with 46 episodes total to air, I'm sure they want to stretch it out. So when it hopefully does get to the third season episodes, get the VCR/DVR, etc. ready. :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 09, 2010, 01:14:29 AM
Well, I won't know yet what episode it is. I looked on locatetv.com (http://www.locatetv.com/tv/hardy-boys-nancy-drew-mysteries/season-2/1669137) and it says it might be Arson and Old Lace. That would be out of order...but it also lists some of the season 3 episodes as "latest" episodes. So I guess we will see. My DVR will be ready, don't worry!!

(The channel listed on locatetv.com is not the same as mine so I don't know....)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on June 11, 2010, 05:12:29 PM
Well, here's the generic reply Universal sent me about The Hardy Boys Mysteries (Season 3):


Thank you for contacting Universal Studios Home Entertainment.

No date has been announced for the next season DVD release of "The Hardy Boys Nancy Drew Mysteries" series. A multitude of factors, including contractual issues, influence the timing and content of our DVD releases. Unfortunately, no further information is available at this time.

For a listing of upcoming releases, please check our website periodically at: http://www.universalstudioshomeentertainment.com. You might also wish to subscribe to our online newsletter for product announcements at http://signup.universalstudois.com/form/39.


We appreciate your interest and hope that you will continue to enjoy Universal products.

Sincerely,

Consumer Relations
UNIVERSAL STUDIOS HOME ENTERTAINMENT
..............................................................................

Not very encouraging- but I have seen a number of people on the Internet asking for this release, so maybe Universal will eventually take notice.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 12, 2010, 12:48:47 PM
Yeah not very encouraging at all! Grr....Maybe we need to start a petition of sorts....Maybe that would help them take notice.


Side note...Arson and Old Lace is scheduled to be the episode tomorrow morning. Next week's should be Campus Terror if locatetv.com is right again.

I am slowly getting closer to Season 3... *crosses fingers*
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on June 12, 2010, 04:58:13 PM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on June 12, 2010, 12:48:47 PM
Yeah not very encouraging at all! Grr....Maybe we need to start a petition of sorts....Maybe that would help them take notice.


Well one petition that will most likely get Universal to work more quickly on Season 3 is to get more people to buy the two seasons that are out already.  If those Seasons start selling at a rapid pace, then that will send a message to Universal to get on the last season.

BUt also it could be a contractual issue that is holding the season up, since if there is some music that is costing quite a bit to licence for distribution, and Universal don't think that they'd get a good profit on the set  because of that, then that could be what's holding the set up.  Remember, in the 1970's no one was thinking of clearing the rights for distribution since the series was only being made available to TV stations who were broadcasting it, not distributing it for home viewing.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 13, 2010, 02:14:35 AM
That's a good point Tomswift. They did not foresee the concept of DVDs.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on June 13, 2010, 01:25:53 PM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on June 13, 2010, 02:14:35 AM
That's a good point Tomswift. They did not foresee the concept of DVDs.

And in the 80's when Universal and Goodtimes released that handful of VHS/Beta tapes of the series those would've been the only episodes cleared for home video distribution, unless they had already cleared some for airlines and passenger ship lines to show on their journey's (which is how Fox has been able to reissue the 1966 Batman movie numerouse times, but has not been able to release any episodes on VHS, Beta, DVD or Blu-Ray).
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 13, 2010, 10:12:21 PM
Wow! You know a LOT!

I asked my hubby about videotaping the show somehow and putting them on youtube but he said it wasn't a good idea. I was thinking of you all though! I just hope they start showing Season 3 sometime on tv.

And to whomever owns the rights currently to this show, PLEASE release it ASAP!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 22, 2010, 11:17:37 PM
UPDATE! This weekend, Assault on the Tower is scheduled to air!!!! Then it is supposed to be Search for Atlantis. Why they are going out of order, I don't know. But FINALLY I will get to see a SEASON 3 episode!!!!!! :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on June 23, 2010, 07:12:25 AM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on June 22, 2010, 11:17:37 PM
UPDATE! This weekend, Assault on the Tower is scheduled to air!!!! Then it is supposed to be Search for Atlantis. Why they are going out of order, I don't know. But FINALLY I will get to see a SEASON 3 episode!!!!!! :)

Better record the episodes none the less so that you can have (syndicated) versions of the episodes and you can watch them whenever without having to wait on Universal.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on June 23, 2010, 12:49:17 PM
Woohoo! Yeah for Season 3 episodes! :D 8)
From the episode descriptions I read, along with the pictures and sound clips on that website you posted at the start of this thread- all the Season 3 episodes sound pretty intriguing to me. I know I really enjoyed "Search for Atlantis", so I feel sure "Assault on the Tower" will be good.
Be sure to post a good review of the episode. ;)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 24, 2010, 10:55:43 PM
Quote from: tomswift2002 on June 23, 2010, 07:12:25 AM
Better record the episodes none the less so that you can have (syndicated) versions of the episodes and you can watch them whenever without having to wait on Universal.

Oh definitely! I have warned my hubby that he is never to erase them! lol I even thought of taping them on video for myself or figuring out a way to get them on a VHS or DVD. I have no clue how to do so though when you record something on a DVR. If nothing else, I can just hold on to them forever...or until hell freezes over and Universal finally releases the  DVD.

Quote from: MacGyver on June 23, 2010, 12:49:17 PM
Woohoo! Yeah for Season 3 episodes! :D 8)
From the episode descriptions I read, along with the pictures and sound clips on that website you posted at the start of this thread- all the Season 3 episodes sound pretty intriguing to me. I know I really enjoyed "Search for Atlantis", so I feel sure "Assault on the Tower" will be good.
Be sure to post a good review of the episode. ;)

Will do!! I am very excited as well. I just don't know why they are not going in order. Hmm...

Oh and from that site I posted in the beginning of the thread, I really liked the one about the girl that is obsessed with Frank. I hope they play it at some point. :D
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: SDLagent on June 25, 2010, 02:28:11 AM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on June 24, 2010, 10:55:43 PM
Oh definitely! I have warned my hubby that he is never to erase them!

Now if he ever want a divorce he knows what to do.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 25, 2010, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: SDLagent on June 25, 2010, 02:28:11 AM
Now if he ever want a divorce he knows what to do.

LOL well I wouldn't let it him off that easy but it would be an argument for sure!!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on June 28, 2010, 09:17:19 PM
Well, in looking around online, I found the website for the station airing The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries that hardygirl847 mentioned.
http://www.myretrotv.com/index2.html

It has affiliates all over the USA, so give it a look- it might be airing in your area! And there's a quick blurb for the show there along with the rest of their programming. Not a whole lot- but cool nonetheless.
And besides The Hardy Boys, a lot of other classic characters are on there- The Incredible Hulk, Battlestar Galactica (the 1970s original of course!), Emergency, Leave It to Beaver, Airwolf, Knight Rider, The A-Team, Magnum, P.I., Simon & Simon, Kojak, Quincy, M.E., Adam-12, Dragnet- tons of good stuff. :D 8)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 30, 2010, 01:41:30 PM
My station is actually called Me Too or something. BUT it does have a lot of oldies. I'm not sure all of those are on there though. I used locatetv.com as well. It's been right so far... Next us is Search for Atlantis and then Scorpion's Sting is scheduled for July 11th.

Speaking of Season 3 episodes, I will have to do my "review" of Assault on the Tower soon! :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on June 30, 2010, 08:44:40 PM
Okay- cool. I've heard of the Me Too station as well- there's a couple of similar retro-style local stations all around the USA now, it seems. If I'm not mistaken, I think I might even get that Retro TV station myself- in which case, I'm definitely exploring this possibility now for the chance of finally seeing The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries airing on TV (and hopefully the Season 3 episodes at that.) :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on July 01, 2010, 01:37:43 PM
Yeah! Definitely check into that! They are going out of order, so who knows how long they will actually be airing the Season 3 episodes! I hope they do all 10 of them. This week will be the 2nd episode from Season 3.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on July 03, 2010, 12:19:35 AM
Here's a few other sites to check out for more on The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries show.
http://www.annelockhart.com/site/main.htm
(Anne Lockhart's official site- includes some pictures from her guest spots in "Mystery on the African Safari" and "The Last Kiss of Summer" (Parts 1 and 2).

http://web.archive.org/web/20011218020857/http://www.lostinthepast.net/Hardy/hardyboys.html
(Tons of screenshots from various Hardy Boys episodes- mainly Season 1 and 2, although "Search for Atlantis" is in there too and some shots from TV Land airings- which included some Season 3 episodes. (Also, I'm pretty sure these are from a female fan so there's some of those drool-worthy for girls/incredibly weird-ugh type for guys pictures on here.)

Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on July 03, 2010, 12:22:36 AM
And assuming this is still current, you can try contacting this guy, who apparently has some first generation video taped episodes for trade. http://home.comcast.net/~jsage145603mi/HardyBoys.htm
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on July 05, 2010, 12:56:36 AM
Okay- quick update on the Retro Television situation- unfortunately, I can't seem to access the channel at my place. However, I do have some family that can get the channel and I was able to watch The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries on TV there tonight! That was really cool! And apparently, this station is in a Season 2 rotation right now, as "The Mystery of the Hollywood Phantom" (Part 1) aired tonight. Maybe eventually the third season will roll around on there and I can tape some episodes that way. :D  (Or maybe Universal will finally put fans out of their misery and just release the 10 episodes on DVD already!) Still hoping for it someday...
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on July 08, 2010, 12:14:39 AM
YAY at least you can watch it somewhere!! :) I just watched Search for Atlantis and really liked it!! I will have to post a review later. Is that the one you own though?

As for the DVDs, I'm not holding my breath but I'm not giving up either!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on July 08, 2010, 12:48:52 AM
Yeah, I've got "Search for Atlantis" on the officially released VHS tape from 1987. Great episode- I want to see the other 9 now. For a TV completist (and completist in general) this is really agonizing to being that close to watching the whole series but still not quite there.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on July 08, 2010, 02:43:42 PM
Okay- got some cool news on The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries on TV front. As noted earlier in the thread, Retro Television Network currently airs the show Sunday evenings (the same time it originally aired in the late '70s! Cool! 8)). However, for those who can't pull in this channel with their antennas or for those who just don't have this channel in your area, you can try watching it online through one of the RTN affiliate's online stream!
Check out this website for more details if you're interested- http://www.tvobscurities.com/2010/06/watch-retro-television-network-affiliate-kvhc-online/
Keep in mind that it is a live feed and it is based in Texas. (So of course you'll have to adjust for whatever time zone you're in.)
But there's another option for fans who want a way to watch the show - I don't know for sure what their rotation schedule is, but hopefully they will air all of the Season 3 episodes, so fans can have a way to watch them finally.
As soon as I get a chance, I will definitely be testing this out and I'll let you know what I find out. There's lots of other cool '70s and '80s shows on this station too, so check those out as well. (And even older stuff from the '50s- lots of good shows.)
    Incidentally, the rest of TVobscurities.com is definitely worth checking out too- great website for obscure television shows of the past. :) 8)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on July 08, 2010, 10:07:19 PM
Awesome! I didn't even think to look into an online stream of it.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on July 10, 2010, 02:37:43 AM
Hmm- so far on this online stream I keep getting footage of interviews with NASA personnel and such. I will keep exploring this and try to find out if The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries actually does air on this like I'm thinking it should though.
(And if not, I'll just have to keep seeking it out- I'll let you all know as I find things...) :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on July 10, 2010, 11:48:26 PM
Okay- bad news on the online stream. It seems that RTN is no longer allowing it to stream their programming, thus KVHC is streaming these NASA shows...
I ran across this information in a post on another forum I frequent sometimes and the poster seemed to indicate that this was the official word he had gotten from KVHC in an email, but they are working on other programming- hence the NASA and science shows, I guess.
Oh well- I'll let you know if I find out anything else on Season 3 of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries. But for those who get the Retro Television Network- check their national listings as the show is airing across the USA at least.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on July 11, 2010, 12:27:55 AM
Weird!

And bad news on my end too....Seems Nancy Drew will start airing on the 18th with A Haunting We Will Go. Did they really just tease me with 3 Season 3 episodes??! GRRRR times a million!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2010, 12:40:03 AM
Apparently, the schedule is not very consistent. Oh well- at least you got to see a few Season 3 episodes. Hopefully they'll eventually get back to the rest of the episodes for the season. Enjoy some Nancy Drew in the meantime and The Hardy Boys will be around soon enough, I'm sure. :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on July 12, 2010, 10:00:35 PM
I shall wait for my boys to return. I am not a big Nancy fan. But like you said, at least I got to see a few. :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on July 23, 2010, 01:42:32 PM
Well, this took some doing but I was able to get some information on Retro Television Network's airing of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries. Now keep in mind that this channel services stations all over the USA, but it's not necessarily the only one airing this show. As hardygirl847 mentioned, Me Too is also airing the show and their license might be different on what episodes they can air.
However, for Retro Television Network's national feed (which would dictate the local feed anywhere in the USA I'm pretty sure), they only have the license to air 4 of the Season 3 episodes.
So, if you have this channel you can look forward to seeing these episodes at some point on there- "Assault on the Tower", "Search for Atlantis", "Dangerous Waters", and "Scorpion's Sting". I wish they were airing all of Season 3, but at least this is still more episodes than is available on VHS or DVD at this point.
Me Too's license and schedule might be different, so it may be worth calling or emailing their program department to see what episodes they can air and plan to air.
     By the way, one nice thing I heard about The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries is that for the Retro Television Network's market, this is one of their most popular shows and it's not going anywhere. :D 8)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on July 23, 2010, 02:10:35 PM
That's intersting on the rights issue, since usually the station receives the rights to all the episodes in a television series when they acquire the syndication rights.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on July 25, 2010, 10:14:49 PM
I just put in an email to MeToo since it's a local station for me. I will let you know if I hear anything. So far more Nancy Drew episodes are airing and they are not in order. I find this most frustrating!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on July 27, 2010, 10:14:02 AM
Let us know if MeToo says anything different if and when they reply to your email, but here is what I could glean after scouring through their website. From their past record earlier this year, they've aired episodes fairly erratically within the seasons, but they have aired Seasons 1, 2 and 3 in order. (Let me clarify- they've aired episodes from all 3 Seasons and they have aired batches of out-of-order episodes together with their respective Seasons.)
However, as for Season 3, I've only seen the same episodes aired as the ones I mentioned that air on Retro Television Network:
Quote"Assault on the Tower", "Search for Atlantis", "Dangerous Waters", and "Scorpion's Sting". I wish they were airing all of Season 3, but at least this is still more episodes than is available on VHS or DVD at this point.
Maybe both these channels have the same licensing deal? I don't know why they can't get the other episodes from Season 3. I suppose there may be episodes from Seasons 1 and 2 that they don't air either, but I haven't really checked those because those are all already on DVD.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on July 29, 2010, 02:11:35 PM
Thanks for reminding me of the email. I totally forgot I sent it! And that is also due to the fact that I haven't received a response. Perhaps I will investigate further.

It is quite possible that MeToo has the same licensing. It's still a shame though. However, Dangerous Waters did not air with the other 3. Just Assault on the Tower, Search for Atlantis, and then Scorpion's Sting. Following those, Nancy Drew took over.

According to locatetv.com, this week does not have episode info on it. However, August 8th is listed as a Nancy Drew episode.

Frustration!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on August 23, 2010, 11:30:16 PM
FINALLY got a response from the email I forgot I sent! lol Not good news...but nothing new I guess either.

From the email....

"We can't get the rights to those. There is some legal reasons NBC Universal  can't distribute them. That is why they are not available anywhere. Sorry"
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on August 24, 2010, 10:59:57 AM
Hmm- well, that's still interesting to know. Are there legal reasons keeping NBC Universal from distributing the episodes to TV stations for air AND from distributing to DVD or is it just a TV airing deal? I imagine the legal issues would probably apply to both, but you never know. Though certainly it can't be that much of a legal tieup like the one that ties up the rights to the '60s live action Batman show or The Wonder Years (both of those are some of the most requested shows on DVD and sadly, some of the least likely to ever get a full uncut release...)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on August 26, 2010, 02:04:48 PM
That's interesting about the legal rights with the episodes.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on September 02, 2010, 12:06:44 AM
Interesting and downright FRUSTRATING!!!!  I refuse to believe there will be 7 episodes I will NEVER see! :(
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on September 02, 2010, 04:50:34 PM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on September 02, 2010, 12:06:44 AM
Interesting and downright FRUSTRATING!!!!  I refuse to believe there will be 7 episodes I will NEVER see! :(

Well with the Muppets Family Christmas, even though the producers cleared the music rights for broadcast for a couple of songs that they have been unable to clear for home video, when its aired at Christmas most channels nowadays air the home video-version that removes songs like I Heard The Bells On Christmas Day, Sleigh Ride (which includes a great joke between Fozzie and the Snowman), a Muppet Babies home video, and a few other cuts wer made due to copyright reasons with the songs.  So it could be with the Hardy Boys episodes that maybe there are music issues or possible even some of the actor's have had disagreements with Universal over the past couple of decades and the actors have asked that none of their episodes or scenes be aired/released to home video until Universal and them can reach a new agreement.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on September 02, 2010, 06:09:24 PM
Yeah, I know all about the Muppet Family Christmas issue. I'm a big fan of the Muppets and finally I was able to get a copy of the special as it originally aired, taped by a fan back then. And it definitely is a nice improvement over the home video version- and I do like Fozzie Bear's joke with the snowman too. ;D And it's really great having "I Heard The Bells on Christmas Day" in there- one of my favorite Christmas carols.
     But I really can't think of many music issues with the 3rd. season of The Hardy Boys. The only thing that comes to mind is the useage of Bread's music in the 2-part season premiere (mainly "If"- not sure if others were used. But "If" is a really beautiful song and definitely needs to be included in a video release.) I still hope it might get released someday though. Until then I guess I can just enjoy "Search for Atlantis" on VHS and whatever episodes that are aired on that Me Too or Retro TV channel, if I ever decide to pick it up with my cable package.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on September 06, 2010, 12:02:48 PM
When you mention actors having problems, you don't mean Parker or Shaun right? Assuming they allow the airing of 3 episodes, I would guess they would be fine with the rest...Plus there are 2 other DVD sets out. I'd be ticked off if it was because of some less than known actor or actors holding it up!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on September 06, 2010, 04:26:50 PM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on September 06, 2010, 12:02:48 PM
When you mention actors having problems, you don't mean Parker or Shaun right? Assuming they allow the airing of 3 episodes, I would guess they would be fine with the rest...Plus there are 2 other DVD sets out. I'd be ticked off if it was because of some less than known actor or actors holding it up!

Its probably not anything dealing with Shaun or Parker or Edmund Gilbert, but it could be someone who appeared in the 7 episodes that are not airing, but didn't appear in the 3 that are.

Of course it might not even be an actor that's holding up the third season.  It could be something completely different.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on September 07, 2010, 09:09:48 PM
 very true...we may never know  :(
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on October 06, 2010, 12:21:53 PM
Wow! Got some cool news here! This is unrelated for the most part, but it could possibly have a bearing on this topic as well.
I don't know if there are many fans of this show here, but anyway- Airwolf is a pretty cool 1980s show that featured a really awesome helicopter! (Kind of TV's response to "Blue Thunder"- though that movie had its own Blue Thunder TV spin-off series. Both of which are on DVD, by the way.) Okay- so anyway- Airwolf Seasons 1-3 have been released on DVD for a while now. The weird thing with Airwolf is that it went through a complete revamp in 1987. The show had originally starred Jan-Michael Vincent and Ernest Borgnine for the first three seasons when it originally aired on CBS from 1984-1986. In 1987, the show moved to USA and it got a total cast change. Barry Van Dyke was now flying the famous Airwolf helicopter and this version of the show lasted for a season. Thus, Season 4 is the final season of Airwolf. (Now of course, some fans refer to this season as "Airwolf II" because it's such a drastic change for the series- some go to the point of basically disavowing it or just considering it a separate show altogether. And of course there are also completists who readily accept it as Season 4 of this great show- Airwolf. And it is a great series- definitely worth checking out. Go to this really cool website if you're interested in it. www.airwolf.tv)
            Okay- all of this was to say- Airwolf Season 4 is coming to DVD hopefully in the first quarter of 2011. (So sometime in the late winter-Jan.-March to early spring- April-May of 2011.) http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Airwolf-Season-4/14508

And here we come to the relation to The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries part. Both Airwolf and The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries are owned by Universal. Both of these series have a similar situation with their last seasons. In the case of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries, I don't think it's quite nearly as bad as Airwolf- but both series have final seasons that are generally fairly unpopular with a lot of viewers. Nonetheless, both series have completist fans (like me) who still enjoy all the seasons and want to see all of them come to DVD. Thus, if Universal is willing to finally release the last season of Airwolf now (about 3 and a half years since they released Season 3), maybe we can take this as a good sign that they are still willing to work on other shows from a similar era that have run into such a roadblock. Who knows? We certainly don't know for certain, but I'm excited to see Season 4 of Airwolf finally get released and for the show to be complete on DVD and I take it as a possible good sign that Universal might finally consider releasing Season 3 of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries on DVD! We can only hope. :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 06, 2010, 01:07:14 PM
Very interesting!! I hope this is a good sign as well! :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 19, 2010, 04:33:44 PM
Well, no one get their hopes up just yet. I contacted Universal Studios yesterday. Here is the email I got as a reply....

Thank you for contacting us.

No date has been announced for the next season DVD release of "The Hardy Boys Nancy Drew Mysteries." A multitude of factors influence the timing and content of our DVD releases. Unfortunately, no further information is available at this time.

For a listing of upcoming releases, please check our website periodically at: nbcuniversalstore.com. You might also wish to subscribe to our online newsletter for product announcements at http://signup.universalstudios.com/form/39.


We appreciate your interest and hope that you will continue to enjoy Universal products.

Sincerely,

Consumer Relations
UNIVERSAL STUDIOS HOME ENTERTAINMENT


Still nothing we didn't already know....GRR
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: Olivia on October 25, 2010, 06:34:02 PM
>:(

Is there any way to access season 3? I heard that it used to be on Netflix, but it's not anymore and I'm in Canada, anyways. (Canada just got Netflix, but they're still building up the database).

I'm sure it has to be somewhere on the Internet. Maybe a torrent. Who knows.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on October 25, 2010, 06:41:03 PM
I've seen some bootleg stuff pop up at various sites here and there that are way way outrageously over-priced (and of course, not really exactly legal). You might check Ebay and IOffer.com though - until Universal decides to officially release Season 3 on DVD, getting taped copies from TV might be about the only way to get The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries - Season 3. (Though I wonder- I guess this should technically be The Hardy Boys - since that's what the series changed its name to. But that makes it kinda confusing to label then.) I should also mention that the "Search for Atlantis" episode has been officially released to VHS and you can get that from a used dealer for a fairly decent price on Amazon.com, which is the only reason I've been able to see that episode from Season 3.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: Olivia on October 25, 2010, 06:44:04 PM
Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 26, 2010, 01:20:53 AM
Yeah I have seen that on Amazon before. I have 3 episodes on my DVR right now. I honestly thought about taping them so I would have some kind of physical copy. According to my husband, it's really tedious and kinda of hard to do. I don't even have the right equipment for it either. :(

I randomly search for it online and never get anything reliable. Netflix has it on there and where you can sign up for when it is available. However, I think I've been on that list for almost a year now. Not holding my breath on that one.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on October 26, 2010, 09:10:51 PM
Okay- again, this is not directly related but it is heartening to know that Universal is actually releasing Airwolf- Season 4 on DVD! It's so nice to see shows finally come to completion on DVD (especially one like this that didn't look like it ever would). http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Airwolf-Season-4/14611
Official release date has been announced as February 1st.
And guess what else is getting released? Well, it seems there's just one more thing...
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Columbo-Mystery-Movie-Collection-1991-1993/14612
Columbo is finally getting another Mystery Movie Collection release- this time covering the movies from 1991-1993.
That will be released on February 8th.
There are only 7 more Columbo TV-movies to be released after that to complete this series. (And maybe they'll release the whole Mrs. Columbo series too, while they're at it.)
So again- to me, this seems like good signs if Universal is moving forward with these series, finishing Airwolf and closing in on Columbo I'm getting a feeling that soon they'll be looking at other mystery series to release and maybe they'll be willing to get the rest of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries out on DVD. We'll just have to wait and see. :D
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 26, 2010, 10:46:10 PM
I hope it's a good sign!!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on November 01, 2010, 02:29:15 AM
I just saw another Season 3 episode!!! It was entitled Dangerous Waters!!! I will admit it was not the best one by far...but hey, it's still from a mysterious season that may never be on DVD.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on November 01, 2010, 04:17:44 PM
Cool! I still want to see this whole Season on DVD. It's so incredibly annoying to see TV series come so close to the point of completion on DVD and then never have anything further done with them.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on November 01, 2010, 09:58:46 PM
I know! So far 4 have aired...but where are the other 6??? Maybe one day..... :-\
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on November 16, 2010, 12:48:56 AM
I found this video on Google Videos- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8940664205414072069#
It looks like someone else posted the Season 3 premiere episode- The Last Kiss of Summer- or least the first 17 minutes or so of Part 1 of this episode. The opening theme song is intact there too. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the rest of this episode on there (or any other Season 3 episodes for that matter.) But this video is apparently taken from a Disney Channel airing (judging from the logo, probably from the mid-to late '80s) and is a good bit better quality than the one posted on Youtube.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on November 16, 2010, 12:52:55 AM
The fact that it's a Disney airing also answers a question I was wondering about- I think the Youtube video is most likely from the original airing on network TV (I think the user maybe even states that). And both that airing and the Disney airing still contain the "If" song by Bread. So I wonder if that song would still be included on a DVD release? I really hope so because it's not like this show really used popular songs a ton and really had any iconic ones attached to it much (other than Joe Hardy's classics "Da Doo Run Run", "Hey Deanie" and "That's Rock 'N' Roll"). But I think this one is very fitting for this episode and for that montage of scenes and it's very evocative of the 1970s musically- and I just love the song in any case. :D 8)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on November 16, 2010, 06:01:12 PM
A few quick comments...

1. The quality was MUCH better than the one we usually find. I would try to record it and upload it but my hubby says I don't have the right equipment. :( Good find, thanks!

2. I'm not a big fan of that girl. She came out of nowhere and died so ridiculously. Obviously, it's horrible that she died, but it was just too hard to believe or something. I felt bad for Joe of course, but I don't know ...it was just weird. It does make me wonder if it played a part in Iola's death at the beginning of the Casefiles. Getting blown up is way more dramatic than the car accident in the show. Underwhelming might be the word.

3. I googled some Disney logos and haven't found that particular one yet. I would think the song would still be on the DVD. I was able to find the song online actually and it's downloadable from Bread's cd.

That is of course...IF (no pun intended lol) the DVD actually ever comes out!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on November 17, 2010, 02:07:58 PM
Hey- just found a pretty cool link here.
http://abriefingwithmichael.blogspot.com/search/label/The%20Hardy%20Boys%20Mysteries
This dude has a blog on reviews of TV shows and WOW- if you're a fan of classic TV, all the way from the '50s to the '60s to the '70s to the '80s and on through the '90s and 2000s- there's tons of classic shows in here.
Anyway- he also reviews some episodes of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries. He's only covered select episodes though- but he's covered a number of the Season 1 Nancy Drew episodes and most of her Season 2 appearances. And he's covered some Season 2 episodes starring The Hardy Boys too (haven't seen any Season 1 episodes for Frank and Joe on here)- but the main thing I'm interested in is the fact that he covers Season 3 episodes! So check out the reviews for all of them, really- but you might particularly like to see the Season 3 episodes reviewed- "The Last Kiss of Summer" (Parts 1 and 2), "Search for Atlantis", "Dangerous Waters", and "Defection to Paradise" (Parts 1 and 2).
There're also some pretty cool screen captures from the opening intro for Season 3 as well as shots from the episodes.
I'm not sure if I totally agree with all of his reviews (mainly because from what I've seen of the third season, I don't think the "fun and innocence" that he mentions is totally gone- but the Hardys do take on some grittier cases with some more violence and so forth- but then, that's what the show creators were aiming for at this point. It's honestly pretty reminiscent of The Hardy Boys Casefiles in some ways- perhaps even The Hardy Boys: Undercover Brothers or at least The Secret Agent on Flight 101 :))

Anyway- just thought you all would enjoy.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on November 21, 2010, 01:56:37 AM
I will read it more later...I skimmed it a little. At first glance, I can tell that I agree and disagree with some of his comments. More later. :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on December 02, 2010, 12:28:48 AM
Okay- yet another long forgotten series seems to be getting looked at by Universal again- http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Coach-Season-4/14754

This is just on rumor status for the moment, but according to an email a fan got back from Universal, the very, very late '80s and mainly early '90s sitcom Coach will be finally getting its 4th. Season on DVD on March 15, 2011.

Considering that it's been close to three years since this series has gotten a release, I think this is another good sign from Universal. Again, I'm just speculating, but it is encouraging to see that they are bringing back shows that had been languishing for a while- first Airwolf, then Columbo (which is more in the genre of the show we're wanting!) and now maybe Coach. Plus, they just recently released the 12th. (and final) season of Murder, She Wrote to DVD. (Though hopefully the TV-movies will get a release too.) So they're wrapping up with classic mystery series like Columbo and Murder, She Wrote and reviving (and in some cases, finishing off) long seemingly abandoned series like Airwolf and Coach. It's still just speculation on my part, but I can't help but think maybe they're gearing up to finally complete The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries on DVD with the 3rd. (and final) Season? Okay, so maybe it's wishful thinking too, but I'm really hoping it will be released sometime this coming year!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on December 02, 2010, 03:06:23 PM
By the way- just saw this update- http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Coach-Season-4/14754
Coach Season 4 has been confirmed as being released by Universal Studios for that date.
Again, it just encourages me for the prospects of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries :D
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 06, 2010, 01:27:33 PM
Good sign I hope!!!!!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on December 06, 2010, 01:35:25 PM
Well, just for fun and just to see, I emailed Universal again. Here's the reply I got:

Thank you for your most recent email.

Unfortunately, no announcements have been made regarding "The Hardy Boys Nancy Drew Mysteries" since you last contacted us.

We appreciate your continued interest and have forwarded your comments to the appropriate department.

Sincerely,

Consumer Relations
UNIVERSAL STUDIOS HOME ENTERTAINMENT

Kinda disappointing at the outset, but it's basically the same generic line you get most every time. However, they pointed out that no announcements have made yet. It doesn't mean an announcement will be made anytime soon, but at the same time it might also be that they're not ready to make an announcement. I have heard of other fans getting direct answers with release dates for other titles on DVD through email from companies before. So they may still be working towards a Season 3 release for The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries- only time will tell. If nothing else, it can't hurt to email Universal and ask them about it so that they can see there are a number of fans out there waiting for this release. You can contact them here- http://www.universalstudiosentertainment.com/contact-us.php  If you're on FaceBook, you can also "like" their page and post questions about it there too.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on December 06, 2010, 04:36:23 PM
Okay, and this is off-topic here, but I thought this would be a fitting place for it.
http://robotceleb.com/news/25491-11042010-video-watch-shaun-cassidy-perform-live-oprah.html

Apparently, Shaun Cassidy made an appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show (which is in its last season now, by the way- I didn't realize this until just today- and apparently the show's been around for 25 years.) Anyway- he was on the show about Teen Heartthrobs somewhere around November 4, 2010 and actually performed some of his classic hit songs- including ones performed on The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries like "Da Doo Ron Ron" and "That's Rock and Roll". For the last 20 years or so, he's largely stayed out of the public eye and steadily worked as a TV producer, creating some excellent shows like American Gothic and Roar and the recent Ruby and the Rockits- among others.
         You can see a video clip of at least some of Shaun Cassidy's appearance at the link above. I'm kinda disappointed that the blogger apparently didn't know who the guy is- of course, he's easily known to me both for being a pop star singer from the '70s (and a teen hearthrob for the girls), creator of the TV shows I mentioned and of course- starring on the Breaking Away TV show adaptation of the hit 1979 movie! :D  Okay- and slightly more known for being Joe Hardy on The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries 8) And he did a great job of it. One thing I definitely like about him is how well grounded he is and how he never let fame or celebrity go to his head- and he in fact walked away from it for the most part- and is content with working behind the scenes and being a good husband and father. I definitely respect him for that- he's never been in trouble with the law that I know of and presents a good role model. Ironically (and sadly) on the same day that he was showing up on Oprah's show, his half-brother, David, (of The Partridge Family fame) got a DUI for drunken driving.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: Olivia on December 06, 2010, 10:37:22 PM
Thanks for sharing. That should be interesting.

Yeah, his brother David Cassidy has had (for lack of a better term) a "troubled" life. I read his autobiography a while ago (before I even knew who he was), and that's where I discovered they were half-brothers. David was actually offered the part of Joe Hardy, but he turned it down (I can't remember why -- I think he was tired of TV at that point) and suggested Shaun.

I caught a random episode of Murder, She Wrote (from the '80's) a few months ago and to my surprise, Shaun Cassidy was on the episode. His character figured out the murder even though he wasn't playing a detective. Shaun did an excellent job.

Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on December 06, 2010, 11:33:07 PM
The clip was taken down from Youtube- but you can watch it directly at Oprah's site- http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Shaun-Cassidys-Greatest-Hits-Video

This was such a cute video- it was really fun seeing Shaun Cassidy perform his songs again and it's very cool that he was totally willing to do such an appearance. It would be really nice if he would ever venture to foray back into acting again for a bit- it would be nice to see him do a movie with Parker Stevenson. (I honestly think a clean version of "The Hardy Men" with him and Parker as midlife crisis Hardys could be really funny. I'd rather see that than the proposed version anyway.) Parker Stevenson and Pamela Sue Martin recently starred together in a movie, by the way- "McTaggart's Fortune", I believe it's called. I'm guessing it's probably a TV-movie deal- kinda sounds like a cheaper ripoff of The Goonies but I'd still like to see it just to see Frank and Nancy together again. :D
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: Olivia on December 06, 2010, 11:42:24 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on December 06, 2010, 11:33:07 PM
(I honestly think a clean version of "The Hardy Men" with him and Parker as midlife crisis Hardys could be really funny. I'd rather see that than the proposed version anyway.) Parker Stevenson and Pamela Sue Martin recently starred together in a movie, by the way- "McTaggart's Fortune", I believe it's called. I'm guessing it's probably a TV-movie deal- kinda sounds like a cheaper ripoff of The Goonies but I'd still like to see it just to see Frank and Nancy together again. :D

I rather Shaun and Parker do it, for sure.

It took two years, but a film with Parker and Pamela called Our Time (it was before ND/HBs) finally came out on dvd (there was only expensive VHS copies before). I'll post about it in the "Movies" section later. I was so excited to finally get it.

I heard about that movie! I hope it see it. Then I'll have seen them from the beginning (1974) to now.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on December 07, 2010, 09:26:24 AM
Cool to know. 8)
Whoa- quite a few folks from The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries were in this movie. Parker Stevenson, Pamela Sue Martin, George O'Hanlon, Jr. and Edith Atwater! (Frank Hardy, Nancy Drew, Ned Nickerson, and Aunt Gertrude, respectively.)
And for another quick trivia note- Edith Atwater portrayed Aunt Gertude Hardy on this TV show in the '70s and she also portrayed another Aunt Gertude in her last appearance- an episode of Family Ties called "Auntie Up". Her character on this show was Gertrude "Aunt Trudy" Harris. I just thought that was a neat bit of irony. :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 08, 2010, 09:06:59 AM
So much to respond to.... :)

*Universal's response is not surprising. but I'm not giving up hope. I may be 40 before it comes out, but I'll still buy it! Btw, that would mean it would come out in 13 yrs. lol I would prefer 1-3. :) I don't like waiting.

*Shaun was fun on the Oprah show. He seems like a really nice family oriented guy. The ladies went CRAZY for him and especially when he sang some of his songs. His smile is definitely the same. Everytime I saw his smile, I thought OMGosh IT'S JOE HARDY! lol I don't remember hearing about David though. Interesting. And obviously not a good thing.

*I didn't know David was up for the role of Joe. I actually don't see him as Joe at all. I really think Shaun worked out for the best.

*I've heard of Our Time being mentioned somewhere before. I haven't actually seen it or even seen a copy of it. Maybe I can hunt it down on the internet. I did watch Parker in a movie...I forget what it was called but he was a lifeguard. Maybe it was called Lifeguard....Hmm...oh well. I will have to look for the newer movie you're talking about.

*Shaun and Parker vs Ben and Tom?? Well, Shaun and Parker WERE the Hardys and I think Ben/Tom are nothing like them. So I definitely vote for a reunion!

*Aww good ol' Aunt Gertrude. I am guessing the folks at Family Ties thought it would a fun nod to her role at Ms. Hardy. Very cute...and yes, ironic. Although it could have been planned. :)

Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on December 08, 2010, 01:14:43 PM
QuoteI did watch Parker in a movie...I forget what it was called but he was a lifeguard. Maybe it was called Lifeguard....Hmm...oh well. I will have to look for the newer movie you're talking about.
Parker Stevenson played a lifeguard called Craig Pomeroy on the kinda obscure and little known 1989-2001 show Baywatch for a few years. ;)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 10, 2010, 12:56:44 PM
I know he did, lol but he was in a movie before Hardy Boys too. Okay I checked. The movie was Lifeguard. Sam Elliot was the main character but Parker played an almost always half naked younger lifeguard. Not the best movie in the world, but he wasn't bad to look at. lol

Darn...now I need a Parker fix. Time to search good ol' Netflix. :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on December 10, 2010, 02:12:40 PM
Sorry- I couldn't resist a Baywatch joke- I did like Parker Stevenson's character pretty well on that show though. It was actually a pretty good show when it first started- somewhere along the line it did turn into more of the title of MAD Magazine's parody- "Babewatch" than anything else, so I didn't really watch it so much anymore. But I was cool with it up to about the mid-90s, when they started doing the Baywatch Nights spin-off. I used to watch that some too. It's amazing how long that show ran and the vast majority of it (save the first season on NBC) was in syndication! Mitch Buchanon and the lifeguard gang- ah yes! 'Cause I'm always there, I won't let you out of my sight! :) Of course, even so, David Hasselhoff will always be Michael Knight on the original classic Knight Rider to me. 8)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on December 10, 2010, 02:20:02 PM
By the way, you can get a copy of Lifeguard on DVD at Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/Lifeguard-Sam-Elliott/dp/B0008KLVBO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1292012307&sr=8-3

but new and used prices seem to be kinda high, so you might prefer just to use the "watch it now" option for 10 bucks.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on December 10, 2010, 05:13:02 PM
I just found this ABC promo from 1979 for a Season 3 episode of The Hardy Boys - it looks like it's "Defection to Paradise" (Parts 1 and 2)- I'm not sure which. Also included is a promo for a little remembered Andy Griffith show- Salvage 1. 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhbWNhe1J2c&feature=related
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 11, 2010, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on December 10, 2010, 02:12:40 PM
Sorry- I couldn't resist a Baywatch joke- I did like Parker Stevenson's character pretty well on that show though. It was actually a pretty good show when it first started- somewhere along the line it did turn into more of the title of MAD Magazine's parody- "Babewatch" than anything else, so I didn't really watch it so much anymore. But I was cool with it up to about the mid-90s, when they started doing the Baywatch Nights spin-off. I used to watch that some too. It's amazing how long that show ran and the vast majority of it (save the first season on NBC) was in syndication! Mitch Buchanon and the lifeguard gang- ah yes! 'Cause I'm always there, I won't let you out of my sight! :) Of course, even so, David Hasselhoff will always be Michael Knight on the original classic Knight Rider to me. 8)

Lol I watched on Youtube some of Parker on Baywatch. I agree that it wasn't a bad show but it definitely was more about the beautiful people after awhile...if not the whole time. It has been on a LONG time...and I bet those tight, wet, read lifeguard "uniforms" have something to do with it! lol

Quote from: MacGyver on December 10, 2010, 02:20:02 PM
By the way, you can get a copy of Lifeguard on DVD at Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/Lifeguard-Sam-Elliott/dp/B0008KLVBO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1292012307&sr=8-3

but new and used prices seem to be kinda high, so you might prefer just to use the "watch it now" option for 10 bucks.

Yeah I am in no hurry to own it. Parker was cute and all but it was mostly about Sam. Maybe one day...thanks for the heads up though.:)

Quote from: MacGyver on December 10, 2010, 05:13:02 PM
I just found this ABC promo from 1979 for a Season 3 episode of The Hardy Boys - it looks like it's "Defection to Paradise" (Parts 1 and 2)- I'm not sure which. Also included is a promo for a little remembered Andy Griffith show- Salvage 1. 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhbWNhe1J2c&feature=related

Cool find! I haven't seen that episode (out of the 5 I have seen). So I am assuming you're right based on the promo info, etc. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on December 19, 2010, 12:35:10 AM
Just found a VERY quick promo clip for The Hardy Boys Season 3 "Life on the Line" episode from the original 1979 ABC airing! (along with a promo for the original 1970s classic, Battlestar Galactica -another Glen Larson masterpiece! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crU7SJ4pYUo
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Post by: MacGyver on December 19, 2010, 12:51:21 AM
And here's a cool preview for the 1978 ABC fall season!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghVSRFEhEBE&feature=related
(And yes- The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries is touted for their Sunday offerings. But even with the start of the second season, I'm noticing that the show is just referred to as "The Hardy Boys" and Nancy Drew is not mentioned at all.
They just don't seem to do these kinds of promos anymore on the networks- and certainly not the cool promos that use popular songs, like the Still the One promo ABC borrowed from Orleans. It's fun watching these things when I find them on Youtube. :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 19, 2010, 12:41:52 PM
Cool! Makes me sad though thinking we may never see Season 3 on DVD. :( Yes, they dropped Nancy for the third season. I didn't like Pamela's replacement as much anyways.
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Post by: MacGyver on January 06, 2011, 06:53:00 PM
Well, I meant that Nancy Drew was still a part of the show in the 2nd. Season and even on the promos for ABC of the premiere of the second season- they weren't even mentioning Nancy Drew here at all. (And I actually like Pamela Sue Martin and Janet Louise Johnson's portrayals of Nancy Drew.)
     But I just saw this today- two of the NBC Mystery Movie programs (both owned by Universal and both from the 1970s, I might add) are being released to DVD!
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Snoop-Sisters-The-Complete-Series/14887
(The complete series of The Snoop Sisters on DVD)

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/McMillan-Wife-Season-3/14888
(Season 3 of McMillan and Wife on DVD)

These are both through a Canadian company called VEI, but they are also making them available to the USA in Region 1, it seems.
Again- just something that makes me take notice and again wonder if Universal might be willing to at least let someone else release Season 3 of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries on DVD if they won't.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on January 06, 2011, 11:59:56 PM
Well that's interesting. I have never even heard of those so if they can come out, that could mean some kind of hope for Hardy Boys Season 3.

Seriously...WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR?! UGH!!

I know there are legal problems, etc...but still...COME ON!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on January 07, 2011, 11:48:44 AM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on January 06, 2011, 11:59:56 PM
Seriously...WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR?! UGH!!

Maybe..... GASP they think that nobody will buy it because they don't have anymore fans!!!!  :-[ :o :( :(
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on January 07, 2011, 12:58:54 PM
I would hope that sales for Seasons 1 and 2 would've proved that wrong... ???
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on January 07, 2011, 02:36:46 PM
I know of a lot of people that email Universal weekly about this. So I can't see how they would think there wouldn't be any interest. If anything, they could make a limited amount if they thought that. But it's probably some legal issue.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on January 07, 2011, 04:37:16 PM
Well right now I'm waiting on Universal to release both Season 3's of The Hardy Boys and Seaquest 2032.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on January 07, 2011, 04:42:09 PM
Yep- and you can throw in Season 5 of Sliders while you're at it.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on January 20, 2011, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on December 08, 2010, 09:06:59 AM

*Shaun was fun on the Oprah show. He seems like a really nice family oriented guy. The ladies went CRAZY for him and especially when he sang some of his songs. His smile is definitely the same. Everytime I saw his smile, I thought OMGosh IT'S JOE HARDY! lol I don't remember hearing about David though. Interesting. And obviously not a good thing.

I just found the video for that Medley that Shaun sang.  (http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Shaun-Cassidys-Greatest-Hits-Video)  Shaun still sounds as good as he does on his LP's, although you can tell that his voice has dropped a little bit due to time, and Oprah commented on how he hasn't performed any of those songs publicly in 30 years, and it's too bad that he doesn't come out with a new album that's in the Adult Contemporary vein.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on January 20, 2011, 05:27:23 PM
Shaun Cassidy seems to be pretty grounded in what he's doing right now. He's tried his hand at singing and done some acting- but for the most part now he seems to like the behind-the-scenes stuff with producing and directing and writing.
And that's fine if that's what he enjoys. But you never know if he might like to dabble in music or acting again- I suppose it depends on what he's wanting to do. It just seems like his career has going in stages from one field to another.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on January 24, 2011, 04:30:25 PM
Yeah...that's what I got from his Oprah interview. He has a family and seems really happy. I'm not sure if his type of music would hit it big nowadays but I'm sure he could evolve too.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on January 26, 2011, 11:45:46 AM
OH MY WORD I LOVED THAT!!!!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on January 26, 2011, 02:11:15 PM
It was quite awesome! 8)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on January 29, 2011, 06:32:39 PM
I thought it was funny to see him as he is now after watching him as a young Joe Hardy. A lot of his fans knew him when he was actually that young so it's been a gradual change. He's practically aged overnight for me! lol
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 03, 2011, 01:17:50 PM
I remember hearing about this somewhere, but I just found a news article to confirm it. Apparently, during the writers' strike of 1988, Brandon Tartikoff, then president of NBC, wanted to revive The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries series with new leads for Frank and Joe Hardy. The plan was to do this sort of thing with other older shows as well to help fill in holes in the schedule. I gather it would have aired Sunday nights again, alongside The Wonderful World of Disney movies and specials and such. (The article actually says it would have been replaced once a month by a Disney movie.)
    Anyway, I'm pretty sure nothing ever came of this, but I wonder how far they got in the process. Was this just an idea talked about or did they actually have casting calls and maybe footage from a potential pilot or anything? Even stock photos of potential actors would be interesting to see. I don't know that I can put a link to the article, but I'll put the text of it below.

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The Miami Herald

July 16, 1988 Saturday
FINAL EDITION

HARDY BOYS TO BE NBC'S FIRST RE-CAST OLD SERIES

BYLINE: From Herald Wire Services

SECTION: COMICS/TV; B; Pg. 7

LENGTH: 201 words


The 1977-79 ABC series The Hardy Boys will be the first TV series to be resurrected as part of NBC Entertainment
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President Brandon Tartikoff's plan to re-cast and re-shoot old TV material to plug holes in the fall schedule left by the writers strike.

Tartikoff said The Hardy Boys will air Sunday nights, when the network's new Magical World of Disney hour was to have debuted. The Hardy Boys will be replaced once a month with a Disney movie, he said, adding that the debut of original Disney programming will probably be delayed until January.

The revival has not been cast yet, but the NBC programming
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chief said he and Universal, which will produce the show, will "conduct a nationwide search to find the two teen- aged male leads who will re-create the title roles of Frank and Joe Hardy for the series," originally played by Parker Stevenson and Shaun Cassidy.

Tartikoff pointed out that The Hardy Boys gave "ABC its best ratings on Sundays 7-8 p.m. that they had in years and have had since. With great casting the show could discover a whole new audience."

He said NBC will decide how to fill remaining time slots one by one as it becomes clear which show is next in being "past the point of no return."

Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 03, 2011, 01:34:07 PM
Here's another story to follow up on the last one I posted. I've bolded the significant part talking about The Hardy Boys.
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The Miami Herald

July 24, 1988 Sunday
FINAL EDITION

OLYMPICS, WORLD SERIES, GIVE ADVANTAGE TO NBC

BYLINE: MARK DAWIDZIAK Knight-Ridder News Service

SECTION: AMUSEMENTS; K; Pg. 2

LENGTH: 989 words


This is war -- Hollywood-style.

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President Brandon Tartikoff says the three major commercial networks are fighting for their very survival, and on July 14 he added more stopgap measures to the many tactics devised during the 20-week-old writers' strike.

The aim of the war is to protect the networks' increasingly vulnerable flanks from opportunistic cable services out to capture their viewers, and it's being waged on several fronts.

In addition to competing against each other while trying to stem the tide of declining viewership this fall, the three major commercial networks must battle a prolonged writers' strike.

Robbed of most new series, NBC, ABC and CBS will field ragtag prime-time lineups that they hope will at least keep their common enemies -- cable, home video, PBS -- from making substantial advances. Although many industry analysts believe that Tartikoff is carrying the life-and-death scenario a bit too far, no one denies that the networks could be facing heavy casualties -- significant loss of viewers and advertising revenues.

What are they going to do about it? Each network has outlined its strategy for the crucial fall campaign. As expected, the ranks will be filled with sports, reruns, feature films, mini-series, TV movies, pseudo-documentary programming and some returning series.

This is what you will see and might see:

NBC

NBC is in the best shape by far. When 124 independent production companies signed the striking Writers Guild "model" contract, it meant five of the No. 1 network's series -- The Cosby Show, A Different World, ALF, Amen and Highway to Heaven -- could start making new episodes.

Even before this development, NBC was prepared to coast through the fall with 179 hours of the Summer Olympics from South Korea and the World Series. NBC also has a new fall series, the true-crime Unsolved Mysteries, and a summer variety series, Funny People, that aren't affected by the strike.

Filling the remaining hours won't be easy, but Tartikoff said that "come hell or high water," he'd do it with TV movies, feature films, mini-series and series from two other categories: comedies produced from British and Canadian scripts or recasting old American shows with new actors.

Following through on this promise July 14, Tartikoff announced a revival of The Hardy Boys to replace the Sunday Disney anthology. Supervised by Tartikoff during his tenure at ABC, The Hardy Boys (1977-79) starred Parker Stevenson and Shaun Cassidy. New actors will get old scripts and Disney will provide monthly specials.

Other possible fall programming includes a pseudo- documentary series, True to Life, and a variety show starring John Byner and former Miss America Suzette Charles. Tartikoff said 200 submissions had been narrowed to 12 finalists for series, and new titles would be added as the strike made it necessary.

David Letterman, host of NBC's late-night talk/variety show, has returned to work without his writers but with their blessing.

ABC

ABC does not have NBC's enormous advantages, but it does have an edge over CBS. The network has decided to air half of the 36-hour War and Remembrance, the $104 million mini-series sequel to The Winds of War, in November.

In addition to the baseball playoff series, ABC has four series not affected by the strike: Monday Night Football, which should nail down a consistent one-night ratings victory for the network; Roseanne, a new comedy starring Roseanne Barr and produced by a company that settled with the guild; Incredible Sunday, the That's Incredible! revival; and the newsmagazine 20/ 20.

ABC has yet to unveil a complete strategy, and network executives won't comment on a report that plans include extensive reruns of four popular comedies: Growing Pains, Perfect Strangers, Who's the Boss? and Head of the Class.

The network also has ordered 13 episodes of Mission: Impossible for the fall. Shot in Australia, the revival of the 1966-73 CBS spy drama will go with new stars and used scripts.

CBS

CBS enters the fray with the shabbiest reinforcements -- no major sporting events, no big mini-series. "We are nonetheless ready and able to program strong original product for the fall season," said Kim LeMasters, president of CBS Entertainment.

Newsmagazines are not affected by the strike, and CBS has three of them: 60 Minutes, West 57th and 48 Hours.

The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, although poorly rated during a spring run, will be back in the fall. Because Tom and Dick Smothers have a waiver from the Writers Guild, their variety show becomes the only CBS entertainment series that can return from last season with new episodes.

CBS has first-run episodes of two comedies originally held for midseason: The Cavanaughs, which will return Aug. 8, and First Impressions, which will premiere Aug. 27. Both will run through October.

On Thursday, the network named four new "strike-proof" shows for the fall that either will be filmed abroad or require little or no writing. Jake's Journey, to be filmed in England, stars Graham Chapman of Monty Python fame in a half-hour comedy- fantasy about an American teen-ager whose family moves to Britain. Dolphin Bay, to be filmed in Australia, is a one-hour drama about an American scientist and his two children who move Down Under where he works with dolphins. High Risk is a reality- based magazine series about the dangers and rewards of unique occupations and hobbies. Dick Clark will host a variety hour to be broadcast live before a studio audience.

The rest of the prime-time lineup will be filled with two additional installments of 60 Minutes, two college football games, three new episodes of Murder, She Wrote, an animated mini-series starring Charlie Brown, three four-hour mini-series (including Jack the Ripper, starring Michael Caine), animated specials, TV movies and feature films.

CBS, like NBC and ABC, is pursuing series similar to Unsolved Mysteries, game shows and foreign productions.

Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 03, 2011, 01:38:29 PM
In this last article, I'm curious about the line that said "New actors will get old scripts and Disney will provide monthly specials."
The monthly specials from Disney are the Disney movies that would air each month in place of the proposed Hardy Boys show that Tartikoff had mentioned in the previous article.
But if new actors were getting old scripts, I wonder if that means they would have been reshooting episodes that had originally aired as episodes of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries (which really doesn't seem to make much sense- I would think they would just air reruns of the '70s show if they were going to do that). Or more likely- I'm thinking this probably means there were completed scripts for additional episodes of the '70s show that were never made- but this 1988 proposed series would have filmed those episodes for air. That would be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 03, 2011, 01:44:25 PM
One more quick follow up- this article basically confirms that the proposed Hardy Boys revival show was pushed back- and as far as I know, pushed back so far that it was off the schedule altogether.
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The New York Times

August 1, 1988, Monday, Late City Final Edition

TV Notes

BYLINE: By Eleanor Blau

SECTION: Section C; Page 16, Column 4; Cultural Desk

LENGTH: 886 words





Dukakis and TV
When Michael S. Dukakis gave his acceptance speech for the Democratic Presidential nomination in Atlanta, his former boss was home watching, with a professional eye. ''That was Michael at his superb best,'' said Greg Harney of WGBH in Boston. Back in 1971 he hired Mr. Dukakis to be the moderator of ''The Advocates,'' a public-television series of courtroom-style debates on public affairs issues.

Mr. Harney, then the program's executive producer, had been impressed, he said the other day, with the ''control'' the young state legislator from Brookline, Mass., had shown when he moderated another program on timely issues, ''The Turned-On Crisis.'' But, Mr. Harney emphasized, Mr. Dukakis honed his television skills on ''The Advocates.''



Mr. Dukakis, who left the program in 1973 to run for Governor, returned to moderate some of the programs in 1979 and 1980, after he was defeated for re-election. ''He got a lot more confident,'' Mr. Harney said. ''His eye contact got better; everything about him improved.'' Well, almost. ''He still has a tendency,'' Mr. Harney said, imitating that tendency, ''to bring the ends of sentences up - instead of down.''
Peter Cook, who followed Mr. Harney as executive producer, said that ''The Advocates'' gave Mr. Dukakis ''a terrific education, not only on issues - the preparation was very complete - but also on how they can be argued on television.''

''He got to see a lot of guys doing it well and not doing it well,'' Mr. Cook said. Also to his advantage, Mr. Dukakis was ''perceived on camera as a listener,'' Mr. Cook added. ''And it allowed him to be exactly in the middle on every issue.''

'Molly Dodd' Survives

Molly Dodd will live on after all, not on NBC, which ditched her a couple of weeks ago, but on Lifetime cable.

Critically acclaimed for an offbeat charm that set it apart from ordinary sitcoms, ''The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd'' - just nominated for three Emmy Awards - stars Blair Brown as a New Yorker in her mid-30's.

Living her life without help from a laugh track, she encounters difficult and exhilarating moments dealing with characters like her manipulative ex-husband, her doting mother and the elevator operator in her apartment building.

Ratings were good when the series began in May 1987, and even better when it returned last March. But they had declined considerably by the time ''Molly Dodd'' was put on ''indefinite hiatus'' after the July 13 broadcast. The drop in ratings was apparently caused at least in part by the program's on-again, off-again career at NBC, which moved it last May from its favored time slot, Thursday at 9:30 P.M. (the night of NBC's popular ''Cosby Show''), to Wednesday night at 9 o'clock and later to 9:30.

Jay Tarses, the creator, producer and director of the series, said he had been ''very sad about the fate of 'Molly Dodd.' '' Speaking from California, he said NBC had shown ''puzzlement and antagonism'' toward the comedy-drama since its start. ''It's not an easy show to categorize,'' he said. ''We're not prime-time normal.''

''There are more and more places to go these days besides the networks,'' he added. ''A lot of rules are changing as the networks erode.''

Under the agreement between Lifetime and You & Me, Kid Productions ''Molly Dodd'' will go into production for 13 new episodes. (The writers' strike won't affect them because they have an independent contract with the union). Lifetime has an option to order an additional 26 episodes.

Before the spring debut, Lifetime will broadcast 26 existing episodes of ''Molly Dodd,'' starting in January.

Disney Specials

''The Magical World of Disney'' won't be a casualty of the writers' strike this fall after all. NBC had said it would be replaced by a remake of ''The Hardy Boys,'' a 1970's ABC series based on the old Franklin W. Dixon novels about two teen-age detectives.

But the new plans are to present a mix of Disney specials, theatrical films and animation - all already produced, but some never seen on NBC - starting Oct. 9. ''The Hardy Boys'' is still on, though, with a date to be announced soon.

CBS's New Eye

In case you blinked and missed it, the new ''state of the art'' version of CBS's eye-shaped logo, complete with seven-note theme tune, made its debut last night just before ''60 Minutes.'' CBS calls it ''a moving, burnished bronze graphic'' intended to ''appeal to younger viewers while still pleasing the audience that grew up with the eye.''

ABC Appointment

From ABC, a staff announcement: Allan Dodds Frank, a former senior editor of Forbes magazine, will be an ABC news correspondent specializing in economic issues and investigative business reporting.

'Festival Latino'

The ''Festival Latino in New York,'' Joseph Papp's annual celebration of Latin-American culture, includes television as well as theater, music and film, and the television component of this year's event is much expanded over last year's.

Concerts, dance, drama, a live call-in show and tapes of past hits of the festival will be available to cable subscribers in Manhattan, on both Manhattan Cable Television and Paragon). The programs will be carried on Channel 25, seven days a week, from this Wednesday through Aug. 23, 6 to 11 P.M. and midnight to 5 A.M.


Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 03, 2011, 01:51:21 PM
Last word I've seen on this is that the Hardy Boys series was left in limbo- I never really thought about it before, but I guess the 1988 writers' strike did have a lot of networks scrambling- and some did go forward with remake series. A new verison of Mission: Impossible aired in 1988 and I remember watching that one as a kid. That was a great revival version of the 1960s classic, which I also love and watched as a child.
But it doesn't look like anything more came out of this Hardy Boys revival deal. But I'm still curious about those old scripts that were mentioned.
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The Miami Herald

August 10, 1988 Wednesday
FINAL EDITION

NBC STILL HOT -- EVEN STRIKE BREAKS ITS WAY

BYLINE: STEVE SONSKY Herald Television Critic

SECTION: LIVING TODAY; D; Pg. 1

LENGTH: 1118 words


As usual, NBC has good reason to be in a good mood. Because when you're hot, you're hot, and for NBC, everything seems to break its way. Even the writers' strike.

At an NBC party/lobbying session for the press at Bob Hope's swanky estate in fashionable Toluca Lake, one NBC veep even felt so happy and bold as to suggest that after all the money NBC had paid Hope in its 51-year association with him (pre-dating television), visiting TV critics should feel free to help themselves to anything they wanted of Hope's -- ashtrays, silverware, a Matisse . . .

Hope, for his part, was taking no such chances. We couldn't get anywhere near the Matisses. The house was bolted shut and critics were confined to the back yard. Well, back yard is sort of an inadequate word here. It's not exactly like we were cooped up with nowhere to roam. There's a golf course in Bob Hope's back yard. Anyway, Hope dished it back pretty good. The first time he hosted an NBC party for the press, he said, the co-hosts were he and Marconi. (Ba-Boom.) If he'd only known 51 years ago that NBC would have lasted this long, he'd have bought it, he said. (Ba-boom.)

And, a little self-deprecating strike humor too, from old Ski Nose (NBC's dessert was Chocolate Hope Heads carved in the shape of the famous Hope ski-nose caricature; in raspberry and vanilla sauce):

"I'm ready to go back to work," he said. "Now that the writers' strike is over, I can ad-lib again." (Ba-boom.)

So, as I was saying, even the writers' strike has broken NBC's way. Due to fortuitous circumstance, along with the cushion that the September Olympics and the October World Series gives them, along with the kind of prescience that makes programming czar Brandon Tartikoff the peerless master of his field, NBC is going to be able to launch its strike-delayed fall schedule with new shows probably a good three weeks before the other guys. And they won't need much of that horrific "strike programming" that everyone was talking about.

The revival of TV's Hardy Boys -- using old scripts with new boys -- is now in "limbo," Tartikoff said at a press conference Wednesday. The silly idea he at first euphemistically and with great fanfare dubbed "American revivals" -- which is the same thing as calling used cars "pre-owned" -- is suddenly not so ballyhooed anymore. And why should it be?

ABC and CBS are talking late October and early November for premieres of their returning and new shows, and Tartikoff Wednesday said he's going to have 13 series back on by the week of Oct. 3, five more plus a miniseries by the week of Oct. 24, and five more the week after that. Only his Tuesday line-up of Matlock, In the Heat of the Night and a new show called Midnight Caller will be laggards, they being held until the week of Nov. 28 to avoid going up against ABC's monster miniseries epic, War and Remembrance.

But Brandon the Bodacious is not even afraid of that! He's got a secret weapon. He's got . . . Vanna!

Yes folks, Wheel of Fortune's Vanna White, the game show hostess with the mostest, the Vixen of the Vowels, in her TV acting debut as Venus, the goddess of love in . . . Goddess of Love, a TV movie that has a strong possibility to be scheduled opposite War and Remembrance's opening night.

War and Remembrance is "an 18-hour clump . . . That's a big book," Tartikoff explained of his counter-programming strategy. "So Awe're going to offer (viewers) nice, little books with very big print. And I would say that The Goddess of Love is about the biggest print we could find right now."

(Asked at an earlier press conference why she chose the Venus role for her debut, Vanna said it was a good segue for her, a likable character in a light comedy -- about Venus coming forward 3,000 years to America. And hey, it wasn't as easy a role as it sounded. "Trying to pull off lines like 'Where dost thou slumber?' like it's my normal language was verry difficult," she said. Also, she explained later, "Venus and Vanna go together well, don't you think?" Well, let's see . . . They both have five letters and two vowels . . . And they both start with V!)

So how did NBC manage to get so lucky and have so many series ready before the competition? Well, Tartikoff explained, they planned ahead, anticipated the strike and ordered scripts early. But also, NBC has more comedy on their schedule than anyone else -- 14 1/2 hours -- and comedies are easier to gear up than dramas. They'll even sneak-preview one of their new comedies, either Baby Boom with Kate Jackson, Empty Nest with Richard Mulligan or Dear John with Judd Hirsch on Sept. 10, between Golden Girls and the Miss America pageant.

They had several shows -- Cosby, A Different World and ALF that had interim agreements with the writers guild and were able to resume writing before the strike ended. They had Unsolved Mysteries, a show not written by entertainment writers, already scheduled.

And, among their hour shows, the form that takes the longest to get back into production, Miami Vice and L.A. Law each have scripts left over from last season that they can begin shooting fairly quickly. Hunter was preparing for a producer change and had six scripts ready before the strike anyway. And Tattinger's, the new series from the producers of St. Elsewhere, had been on the drawing board for over year and so had several scripts near completion before the strike.

There might be some flexibility in all this. One thing Tartikoff said he will not do is try to rush shows on the air before they're ready, so that their quality would suffer. "It is not going to be our tack," he said, "to rush programs on, especially the new series, and jeopardize their long-term success just to get them on one week earlier."

In other news:

*In the category Tartikoff called "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em," he's -- ARRRGH! -- signed Geraldo Rivera for a one-shot, two-hour special that will air on Friday Oct. 7 from 8 to 10. "And the subject he's picked -- it doesn't really matter what subject he's picked, does it?" Tartikoff quipped as the critics roared -- "is the occult." ARRRGH! (Later, a critic asked if Tartikoff could list any specific dead people Rivera had lined up for the show as yet.)

*And, in the category of The Lisa Bonet Question -- Tartikoff said it had been decided that the pregnant actress' Denise Huxtable character would begin the season on The Cosby Show for six or seven episodes, letting Cliff Huxtable deal with "something very good and very important" -- the college dropout. The Denise character will not, however, be pregnant.

Bonet would then take her maternity leave and would come back later in the year to A Different World, where new characters will have been added to make up for her absence.

Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 03, 2011, 02:56:12 PM
Found another article on this. This one mentions that Brandon Tartikoff would have been looking for "the next Kirk Cameron or Michael J. Fox" to star.
http://articles.latimes.com/1988-07-15/entertainment/ca-7112_1_hardy-boys (http://articles.latimes.com/1988-07-15/entertainment/ca-7112_1_hardy-boys)
I'm trying to picture Kirk Cameron and Michael J. Fox at the height of their fame in the '80s as Joe and Frank Hardy. That would have been an interesting combo. And honestly- seeing Kirk Cameron as Mike Seaver on Growing Pains and Michael J. Fox as Alex P. Keaton on Family Ties that combo could have worked. They would definitely both have some of the same characteristics down for Joe and Frank, respectively. And from what I've read, both of these stars were pretty good friends particularly when their shows were shooting next to each other in the '80s. :)
I think I read about this in Kirk Cameron's book, Still Growing. He mentioned that he and Michael J. Fox had a little competition going where they would intentionally try to work in 360 degree turns into their episodes (regardless of whether the script actually called for it) and whoever could get away with the most would win. Sounds like a funny little thing to look out for in episodes of both shows. ;D
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 03, 2011, 02:57:51 PM
And one more tidbit on this, regarding the possible time changes for the proposed Hardy Boys revival (which obviously never happened because the strike was resolved and by January 1989, I'm pretty sure it was totally off the schedule altogether.) http://articles.latimes.com/1988-07-30/entertainment/ca-6749_1_hardy-boys
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 03, 2011, 03:02:33 PM
Okay- seriously- last bit of news I found on this.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1988-07-17/features/8801150885_1_hardy-boys-bastille-day-nbc-spokesman-curt-block

I know it's a lot of articles, but in reading through all the various ones, you can piece together the different ideas that were being circulated and all the little details that different articles may have left out.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on February 03, 2011, 03:50:20 PM
Not to start a war, but I'm just wondering, isn't this illegal?  ??? Season three hasn't been officially released, has it? ???
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 03, 2011, 05:24:40 PM
No, it hasn't. I haven't totally given up hope on it getting released to DVD, but sadly it just doesn't seem to be happening any time soon.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on February 08, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Mac,

I really like Kirk and Michael but I do not see them as Frank and Joe at all. Not even their characters on their shows. Sorry...

(http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/50736042.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=E41C9FE5C4AA0A14C834F38A694D3A83C4E9CF33C745F3463590C65550A318D1B01E70F2B3269972)

(http://www.ohhealthyday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Alex-P-Keaton.jpg)

Looking at them from back when they were on their shows, I have to say that I just don't see it. :( But thank you for alerting us to the articles that talked about a HB revival that sadly never happened.

As for Season 3, yeah it's going to happen anytime soon. Also, your discretion is very much appreciated in this matter. :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on February 08, 2011, 08:08:33 PM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on February 08, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
As for Season 3, yeah it's going to happen anytime soon. Also, your discretion is very much appreciated in this matter. :)

I just don't want anyone to get in trouble. I hope I didn't start a war. :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 08, 2011, 08:51:57 PM
Honestly, it's essentially the same as taping an episode of a TV show onto your Beta, VHS, DVD or Tivo. I guess it depends on how you look at the copyright laws, but people have been doing that for years. The Internet has just made it a little easier to trade such recordings between fans.

And thanks for the pics of Kirk Cameron and Michael J. Fox, hardygirl847. As a fan of both actors and both shows, that was really cool for me. (Especially with the Growing Pains and Family Ties logos on their shirts. ;D) And to clarify, Brandon Tartikoff had said in one of the articles I posted that they were looking for actors for Frank and Joe Hardy who could become stars like Kirk Cameron and Michael J. Fox, not necessarily that they were wanting to cast them or even look-alikes in the roles. But I was just toying around with the idea and I did think that Mike Seaver seemed to match Joe somewhat in the impulsiveness and wildness category and Alex P. Keaton seemed to resemble Frank in the knowledge and refinedness category.  Not a perfect fit certainly- but I can see slight elements here and there.
     Anyway, I'm just wondering about the "old scripts" that the articles kept referring to. If they were further scripts for further episodes of the '70s Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew show, I wonder if there were any further episodes filmed but shelved for some reason? Or at least it seems to indicate that other scripts were completed but never filmed. If such a thing did exist, it would be a really awesome bonus feature for Universal to include on a DVD release of the 3rd. Season of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on February 11, 2011, 01:17:17 PM
No problem Mac! :) They both had pics with their shows on them. I thought that was funny. :) I know you were just throwing the idea out there and I was merely trying to get a visual. Thanks for the clarification though. My head has been on explode mode for most of this week because I've been sick. I doubt I am reading everything correctly... :(  But I see where you would link Joe to the Mike Seaver and Frank to Alex. It's been a LONG time since I've seen those shows but your descriptions helped.

I wonder if the old scripts were shelfed or thrown away. I hope they were not tossed away. It would be a great bonus but I wouldn't hold your breath on that one. :(
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on August 12, 2011, 01:24:39 PM
QuoteThe clip was taken down from Youtube- but you can watch it directly at Oprah's site- http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Shaun-Cassidys-Greatest-Hits-Video

This was such a cute video- it was really fun seeing Shaun Cassidy perform his songs again and it's very cool that he was totally willing to do such an appearance. It would be really nice if he would ever venture to foray back into acting again for a bit- it would be nice to see him do a movie with Parker Stevenson. (I honestly think a clean version of "The Hardy Men" with him and Parker as midlife crisis Hardys could be really funny. I'd rather see that than the proposed version anyway.) Parker Stevenson and Pamela Sue Martin recently starred together in a movie, by the way- "McTaggart's Fortune", I believe it's called. I'm guessing it's probably a TV-movie deal- kinda sounds like a cheaper ripoff of The Goonies but I'd still like to see it just to see Frank and Nancy together again.
I was just looking online and for whatever reason, I can't find a listing on IMDB for "McTaggart's Fortune" anymore- I know Parker Stevenson and Pamela Sue Martin filmed scenes for it at least- I've seen set photos online. It's an independent production so I wonder if the moviemakers just ran out of money and couldn't finish it or something.... I've looked online and can't seem to find any further information. It's a shame because it looked like it would be a cute and fun adventure movie I would've liked to have seen, which would also reunite TV's Frank Hardy and Nancy Drew!
http://adventuremovies2010.alotoffilms.com/usa/mctaggarts-fortune.html
and here's the official website-
http://mctaggartsfortune.com/

But there doesn't seem to be any contact info on it...
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: Olivia on September 14, 2011, 04:26:17 PM
Thanks for the info about McTaggart's Fortune. I would have liked to see it to, but we'll see what happens I guess!
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 03, 2011, 10:17:41 PM
Yeah, as a Parker fan, I'd like to see it too.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 07, 2012, 03:44:27 PM
I don't know if this means anything really, but I just it was interesting to note. On Amazon.com, when I do a search for The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries- on the listings for the Seasons 1 and 2 DVD sets, it now has 2012 listed in brackets by each title. And the release date has changed for each one. Whereas Season 1 was released in 2005 and Season 2 was released in 2007 originally, now both Seasons 1 and 2 DVD sets have a release date of January 10, 2012 listed.
I wonder if they were both given a rerelease perhaps? Like I said, it doesn't necessarily mean anything I guess. But if Seasons 1 and 2 had been rereleased to DVD (still by Universal that is)- maybe, just maybe, it's in conjunction with a Season 3 release? I don't know. I don't know if it will ever happen honestly- but I'd still love to see an official release of Season 3 to DVD sometime....
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on February 07, 2012, 04:28:21 PM
It might be more of a redistribution than an actual rerelease.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 07, 2012, 07:15:32 PM
As in stores ordering more copies or something? That is- it's the exact same packaging and discs- just issued out again from the publisher? This does seem to be more likely as I certainly haven't noticed any copies of these DVDs popping back up in stores or anything...
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: tomswift2002 on February 07, 2012, 07:47:57 PM
Not so much in stores ordering more copies but Universal pushing the titles more.  Whenever a new X-Men movie comes out, Simon & Schuster usually redistributes the Star Trek The Next Generation/X-Men novel "Planet X" to try to get more sales of the book, even though it has been out since 1998 (two years before the first movie appeared).
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 07, 2012, 08:27:41 PM
I've read that book- Michael Jan Friedman did a great job of bringing together the Star Trek: The Next Generation and X-Men casts- love it! :) I also finally found the comic book crossover where everything started a while back, so now I have both the comic and book for the full story.
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: ilovejoehardy on February 08, 2012, 10:20:35 PM
good evening, could you please tell me where i coild watch hardy boys season 3? thank you so much
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 08, 2012, 11:16:54 PM
Thus far, the only ways to legally see Season 3 of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries would include a few options. For starters, there is 1 episode from this season that was officially released to VHS in 1987, that being the "Search for Atlantis" episode. That is still available to buy from Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Hardy-Boys-Search-Atlantis/dp/B00069KJX8/ref=sr_1_2?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1328761921&sr=1-2) for as cheap as $4.99 at the moment (though this is for a used copy. There are also some sellers selling the video tape in a brand new state at $24.93- so you can take your pick on that. You might also like to try Ebay- it's possible you might find it cheaper there.)
     The other option would be to check with the local cable provider in your area. A number of retro TV channels have popped up in recent years, including Retro Television Network and Me-TV, both of which were running the show a year or two back, and they did run some of the Season 3 episodes (though unfortunately not all of them.) However, none of them seem to be running it now. But it's possible other such retro stations may be locally airing the show somewhere.
There are also many places to watch TV shows online legally and I would recommend sitcomsonline.com (http://www.sitcomsonline.com) for a handy list of a lot of them- just look on the main page and scroll down to the menu bar on the left toward the bottom.
      In the past, Netflix (http://www.netflix.com) supposedly had Season 3 episodes available for viewing, but I'm not sure if that ever actually happened or if they just had a listing for it. In any case, I don't know that they have the episodes available anymore, but you can always check just in case.
      This is pretty much all the legal options at the moment. I still hope one day Universal will finally release Season 3 on DVD so that all the episodes of this great show will be available.
        In the meantime, in the not-so-legal-technically category, you can always check such sites as Youtube and Google Videos, etc.- I know I have seen Season 3 episodes pop up on them before (only "The Last Kiss of Summer" (Parts 1 and 2)- but someone might upload the others at some point- who knows?)
      Hope that helps you some.
And hey- welcome to the forum! :)
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: MacGyver on February 14, 2012, 04:30:37 PM
QuoteI don't know if this means anything really, but I just it was interesting to note. On Amazon.com, when I do a search for The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries- on the listings for the Seasons 1 and 2 DVD sets, it now has 2012 listed in brackets by each title. And the release date has changed for each one. Whereas Season 1 was released in 2005 and Season 2 was released in 2007 originally, now both Seasons 1 and 2 DVD sets have a release date of January 10, 2012 listed.
I wonder if they were both given a rerelease perhaps? Like I said, it doesn't necessarily mean anything I guess. But if Seasons 1 and 2 had been rereleased to DVD (still by Universal that is)- maybe, just maybe, it's in conjunction with a Season 3 release? I don't know. I don't know if it will ever happen honestly- but I'd still love to see an official release of Season 3 to DVD sometime....
Curiouser and curiouser- Amazon.com has changed their listings back to the original 2005 and 2007 release dates for Season 1 and 2- maybe it was just a glitch in their system or something after all...
Title: Re: Season 3 Sound Clips
Post by: SkyWarp on February 25, 2012, 09:22:50 AM
See my post here:
http://www.hardyboyscasefiles.com/forums/index.php?topic=2348.0