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Title: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on July 23, 2008, 04:15:15 AM
I'm thinking of starting 2009 version of the Favorite Undercover Brothers Poll series  which ran last year on this very forum.

However, I'm considering making some changes to the format, and would like to now your opinion on some of the changes.

1) Head-to-head polls
Last time I started the series off with half the titles in one one poll and half in another, but this year I'm considering having only two books in a poll at a time, in a sort head-to-head dual.

2) Random match-ups
This time around I am thinking of having all the titles divided up and paired randomly, unlike last time where I had all odd numbered books against each other, and like wise with even numbered.

3) No Super Mysteries
I'm not really into this idea my self but thought I'd through it out there for consideration, since the Super Mysteries both made it to the finals last year, and seeing as how they seem to be the undisputed favorite, what about not including them in this year's series? Again, like I said, I'm not crazy about the idea but some of you may like it. And of course if ''Haunted'' is no good, that will change things.

If everyone is into this, I plan to start the series some time in September after the publication of UB Super Mystery #3 ''Haunted'' and Mission #24 ''Murder House''.

Anyway, please voice your opinion.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: Sam Spade on July 23, 2008, 04:25:38 AM
#1 and #2 sound good, HBWiki! And I definitely think you should leave the Super Mystery's out of these polls. :)
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on July 23, 2008, 04:30:30 AM
Okay good.

Yeah (even though I would rather them left in), at this point a Super Mysteryless series seems like the best way to go, but book three, ''Huanted'', could change our view on the subject, depending on if it's not as good as the first two books.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: Sam Spade on July 23, 2008, 04:40:23 AM
Quote from: HardyBoysWiki on July 23, 2008, 04:30:30 AM
but book three, ''Huanted'', could change our view on the subject, depending on if it's not as good as the first two books.

True.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: tomswift2002 on July 23, 2008, 05:05:38 AM
Or with the Super Mysteries you could maybe through all the Super Mysteries into one poll, including the Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew series.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: Q on July 23, 2008, 09:29:32 AM
Never heard of the UB poll before. Better look it up.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: Olivia on July 23, 2008, 10:52:27 AM
(Agreeing with tomswift2002) I also think the Super Mysteries should be separate, only because they are a special category and tend to be better in general/overall, therefore very likely picked over the regular books. I would have a hard time choosing between Wanted and Danger Overseas though. I mean, would you include the ND/HB crossovers?

And splitting the polls in two books each would probably work too. Then it really is a "process of elimination". I don't know my opinion about head-to-head vs. random pairings yet - I'd have to think about that. We'd have to sift out the pros and cons.

For myself, I think the earlier books are the weakest, so choosing between those and a higher number would be a no-brainer. But choosing between two of the earlier books or two of the later books would make me think more.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on July 23, 2008, 03:04:10 PM
Quote from: oliviatocali on July 23, 2008, 10:52:27 AM
(Agreeing with tomswift2002) I also think the Super Mysteries should be separate, only because they are a special category and tend to be better in general/overall, therefore very likely picked over the regular books. I would have a hard time choosing between Wanted and Danger Overseas though. I mean, would you include the ND/HB crossovers?

Last time I just included the non-crossover Undercover Brothers Super Mysteries, anyway since all of you have been for the idea of no Super Mysteries, I think it's likely that, like tomswift2002 suggested, I'll go with a separate Super Mystery poll(s).

Quote from: oliviatocali on July 23, 2008, 10:52:27 AM
And splitting the polls in two books each would probably work too. Then it really is a "process of elimination". I don't know my opinion about head-to-head vs. random pairings yet - I'd have to think about that. We'd have to sift out the pros and cons.

Well the head-to-head polls would be paired randomly, what I was asking is if we should have head-to-head match-ups or, like last year, multiple books against one another. But it seems like most every body, is into head-to-head (myself included), so I think we'll see that.

And the reason I'm asking about random match-ups, is because last time they weren't random, rather odd numbered books were against each other, and even numbered against each other.

Quote from: oliviatocali on July 23, 2008, 10:52:27 AM
For myself, I think the earlier books are the weakest, so choosing between those and a higher number would be a no-brainer. But choosing between two of the earlier books or two of the later books would make me think more.

Well, I tend to find the first few some of the best, so I think it will be pretty even results.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: Olivia on July 23, 2008, 06:01:57 PM
Oooh, I see. Yeah, I think the head-to-head thing would work. And maybe random pairing. But of course I'd like to see others weigh in :)
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on July 24, 2008, 03:05:44 PM
Would any of you recommend a site to randomize the polls?

There's one I'll probably use, but I'd like to hear your suggestions, since there may be a better site out there.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on September 06, 2008, 08:00:49 PM
So after reading ''Haunted'' do you think it should be included in this poll? It doesn't seem to be a Super Mystery, but it doesn't seem like a regular UB either.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: tomswift2002 on September 06, 2008, 08:45:37 PM
I think "Haunted" should be included in the regular series poll.  I think with the #24 on the title page, "Haunted" is suppose to be a regular series book (and I think "Comic Con Artist" was actually this year's rejected SuperMystery for some reason).

But it is very hard to say, since the book is a very odd anomaly in any of the Hardy series.  It doesn't even compare to the anomalous Digests 84 and 85.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 06, 2008, 09:49:15 PM
Well, Haunted is a special edition ghost stories, so I don't think you should include it.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on September 06, 2008, 11:06:16 PM
I don't think it was a Special Edition Ghost Stories book, because it was just one ghost story, not a whole bunch.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: Sam Spade on September 07, 2008, 04:00:52 AM
I think you should include it, Spencer.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: tomswift2002 on September 07, 2008, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: JoeHardyRocks on September 06, 2008, 09:49:15 PM
Well, Haunted is a special edition ghost stories, so I don't think you should include it.

Special Edition Garbage Story you mean.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 07, 2008, 02:05:10 PM
I liked it! >:(
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: tomswift2002 on September 07, 2008, 02:07:09 PM
Ever read the Hardy Boys Ghost Stories?
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 07, 2008, 02:07:59 PM
No, but next time i'm at the library i'll check it out and still like Haunted better!
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: tomswift2002 on September 07, 2008, 02:09:40 PM
Ghost Stories is a book that is actually about GHOST stories.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 07, 2008, 02:10:30 PM
If it's anything like the Nancy Drew ghost stories, i'll think it is super boring and not finish it.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: tomswift2002 on September 07, 2008, 02:29:17 PM
Let's see, the Hardy's get lost in a ghost town, the climb aboard an old Pirate ship in Bayport harbor and get transported back to the 1890's, Joe helps a little  ghost boy find his mother's musical instrument.  If you are into Voodoo there is also a story about Voodoo.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 07, 2008, 02:29:54 PM
the second one sounds okay.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: Bigfootman on October 12, 2008, 07:03:04 PM
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Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on October 12, 2008, 07:03:40 PM
STOP!!!
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: NZone on October 13, 2008, 05:04:22 PM
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Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
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Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: Olivia on October 13, 2008, 10:09:16 PM
JoeHardyRocks, are you laughing

a) at Negative Zone because now he's the one who's annoyed
b) at what Negative Zone said towards Bigfootman
c) at the situation in general

Just wondering.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on October 14, 2008, 07:33:12 PM
d. All of the above. ;D
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: bozonessinc on October 29, 2008, 10:59:11 AM
Quote from: Sam Spade on July 23, 2008, 04:25:38 AM
#1 and #2 sound good, HBWiki! And I definitely think you should leave the Super Mystery's out of these polls. :)
Maybe you should put, Wanted and the other HB supermystery in. They were good books!
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on October 29, 2008, 04:37:46 PM
That's why we're considering not including the Super Mysteries - ''Wanted'' would win.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: Bigfootman on October 29, 2008, 06:15:55 PM
Quote from: tomswift2002 on September 07, 2008, 02:29:17 PM
Let's see, the Hardy's get lost in a ghost town, the climb aboard an old Pirate ship in Bayport harbor and get transported back to the 1890's, Joe helps a little  ghost boy find his mother's musical instrument.  If you are into Voodoo there is also a story about Voodoo.
You forgot the Scarecrow, and the Haunted Catsle (spelling)! JHR, if you don't find Haunted boring, you will not find this boring at all!
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 29, 2008, 06:19:54 PM
Out of the 6 stories in Ghost Stories the Haunted Castle tale is my favorite.  Even though I don't believe in wizards and witches, the rhyme with the Hardys last name in it is pretty neat.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: 003Robin457 on October 29, 2008, 06:32:23 PM
What do you belive in?
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 29, 2008, 07:13:28 PM
Quote from: 003Robin457 on October 29, 2008, 06:32:23 PM
What do you belive in?

I'm a Protestant Pentecostal-Baptist-Salvation Army, so I believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Trinity, but not in the Catholic belief that you need to pray to Mary, or that the Bible should only be seen and understood by the priests of the church.  If you look under the Religion category you'll find more.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: bozonessinc on October 30, 2008, 11:00:28 AM
Off-topic. Yes Wanted would win. But, how do we know that, we should include it just in case!
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on October 30, 2008, 03:41:58 PM
It won last time, plus almost every one on the forum considers it the best UB continuity novel.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 31, 2008, 01:35:40 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on October 30, 2008, 03:41:58 PM
It won last time, plus almost every one on the forum considers it the best UB continuity novel.

Its the only novel in the entire UB line that has any sort of continuity.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: bozonessinc on November 03, 2008, 02:21:45 PM
Continuity within the novel.. Or to the next book?
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on November 06, 2008, 02:52:48 AM
Well, it looks like most want head-to-head battles, random match-ups and Super Mysteryless polls, so...

(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4918/round1treezz1.png) (http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4918/round1treezz1.png)

(click for full size image)

Because of the number of books in the poll, I felt it would be easier to give eight books a bye to the second round. Oh, and don't hit me if you don't like the match-ups, since I didn't decide, thanks to Random.org (http://www.random.org/lists/).

A few other things, (1) all polls will run for seven days, and (2) I plan to post a new poll each day for round one, but there will be a gap between the end of round one and the beginning of two.

Oh, and for those that are disappointed that the Super Mysteries/Spacial Editions aren't going to be part of the poll, don't worry I plan to do a separate poll for them, sometime in between rounds of this one.

Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: Q on November 06, 2008, 11:02:45 AM
When are you going to start the poll?
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: bozonessinc on November 06, 2008, 02:26:48 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on November 06, 2008, 02:52:48 AM
Well, it looks like most want head-to-head battles, random match-ups and Super Mysteryless polls, so...

(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4918/round1treezz1.png) (http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4918/round1treezz1.png)

(click for full size image)

Because of the number of books in the poll, I felt it would be easier to give eight books a bye to the second round. Oh, and don't hit me if you don't like the match-ups, since I didn't decide, thanks to Random.org (http://www.random.org/lists/).

A few other things, (1) all polls will run for seven days, and (2) I plan to post a new poll each day for round one, but there will be a gap between the end of round one and the beginning of two.

Oh, and for those that are disappointed that the Super Mysteries/Spacial Editions aren't going to be part of the poll, don't worry I plan to do a separate poll for them, sometime in between rounds of this one.


When does this start?
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on November 06, 2008, 04:02:40 PM
I'm thinking this weekend.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: bozonessinc on November 07, 2008, 11:14:10 AM
Ok SDLagent!
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: NZone on November 07, 2008, 04:24:41 PM
That was pointless Bones! Why did you even say that?
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: bozonessinc on November 08, 2008, 09:00:50 PM
I don't know. Why do you always whine about everything Neggy?
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on November 08, 2008, 09:42:09 PM
'Cause Naggy's he's a whiner.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: NZone on November 08, 2008, 10:40:35 PM
Yes, I am whining by asking you why would even post something that contributes nothing. I am sorry for being logical
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on November 08, 2008, 10:41:35 PM
Apology accepted.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on November 09, 2008, 11:58:37 PM
He wasn't talking to you, JHR. What are you Bones' lawyer?
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on November 11, 2008, 02:55:24 PM
I'm sorry I ddin't get the polls up this weekend. I've been busy.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: bozonessinc on November 11, 2008, 02:55:59 PM
No I would not hire JHR.... I am my own lawyer. I fight my battles on MPF all the time!
SDLagent, can you post a link here when your done!
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: hardy boys fan on November 24, 2008, 07:41:19 AM
start the poll
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: 003Robin457 on November 24, 2008, 12:42:42 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on November 06, 2008, 02:52:48 AM
Because of the number of books in the poll, I felt it would be easier to give eight books a bye to the second round. Oh, and don't hit me if you don't like the match-ups, since I didn't decide, thanks to Random.org (http://www.random.org/lists/).
Randon.org? Well thats... Random!
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on November 24, 2008, 03:27:24 PM
Quote from: hardy boys fan on November 24, 2008, 07:41:19 AM
start the poll

I promise I'll do it this week.
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: Sam Spade on November 25, 2008, 12:40:14 AM
Quote from: SDLagent on November 24, 2008, 03:27:24 PM
I promise I'll do it this week.

LIES! LIES! ;) (j/k)
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: NZone on November 26, 2008, 05:53:38 PM
STONE HIM! I'll cast the first stone
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: SDLagent on November 26, 2008, 11:20:01 PM
Hey, I did post a poll!
Title: Re: Favorite Undercover Brothers 2008 Poll series
Post by: Q on November 27, 2008, 06:45:57 AM
FINALLY!