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Title: Double Trouble
Post by: Lola on November 12, 2008, 08:40:31 PM
I was browsing in amazon.com when I found that the next UB trilogy is now availble! I put in my order and it should be arriving on the 18th.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: Sam Spade on November 12, 2008, 11:54:55 PM
Thanks for the heads up, Lola!
I still haven't picked up Murder House though. :-\
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: Lola on November 17, 2008, 11:02:10 PM
I recieved my copy of Double Trouble today and I have to say that this is better than Murder House...IMO.

*Spoilers ahead*









As always it starts off with them solving their last mission....a teen Ride-N-Tie race riding horses. They are back at school and apparently it's close to Valentine's Day, at least that's the impression I got as two girls walk into Frank's class deliverying bouquets. Frank gets a dozen roses with their next mission hidden inside. The brothers are to protect a teen movie star, Justin Carraway. Justin has been recieving some menacing letters ATAC believes are a stalker.  Frank and Joe manage to become friends with Justin and his twin brother Ryan.

Justin is in Bayport filming a movie there. There are several suspects including a group known as the Cleen Teen. They are protesting Justin for his bad behaviour and want him to sign a contract stating that he will clean up his act and be a better role model to his teen fans. A paparazzi reporter named Eligha and even possible Justin's brother Ryan.

Brian and Belinda Conrad and Chet make an appearnce. We also find out something about Aunt Trudy. There is the usual Frank and Joe teasing but it's not that bad. In fact there is a really good brother moment between them.

Like Murder House Frank and Joe find the stalker and capture him but that is not the end. In the sneak peek of Double Down the second part of the series. Frank and Joe want to continue the investigation even though ATAC considers it closed. Why do they want to continue? One of the suspects ends up dead and the stalker didn't do it.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: Q on November 18, 2008, 11:33:01 AM
Sounds really good! I think I will check it out.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: 003Robin457 on November 18, 2008, 05:14:52 PM
My B&N doesn't have it yet. :( Oh well I'll call agin in a day or two.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: tomswift2002 on November 19, 2008, 06:30:21 PM
Quote from: Lola on November 17, 2008, 11:02:10 PM
As always it starts off with them solving their last mission....a teen Ride-N-Tie race riding horses. They are back at school and apparently it's close to Valentine's Day, at least that's the impression I got as two girls walk into Frank's class deliverying bouquets. Frank gets a dozen roses with their next mission hidden inside. The brothers are to protect a teen movie star, Justin Carraway. Justin has been recieving some menacing letters ATAC believes are a stalker.  Frank and Joe manage to become friends with Justin and his twin brother Ryan.

Justin is in Bayport filming a movie there. There are several suspects including a group known as the Cleen Teen. They are protesting Justin for his bad behaviour and want him to sign a contract stating that he will clean up his act and be a better role model to his teen fans. A paparazzi reporter named Eligha and even possible Justin's brother Ryan.

Brian and Belinda Conrad and Chet make an appearnce. We also find out something about Aunt Trudy. There is the usual Frank and Joe teasing but it's not that bad. In fact there is a really good brother moment between them.

Like Murder House Frank and Joe find the stalker and capture him but that is not the end. In the sneak peek of Double Down the second part of the series. Frank and Joe want to continue the investigation even though ATAC considers it closed. Why do they want to continue? One of the suspects ends up dead and the stalker didn't do it.

Doesn't this sound remarkable similar to Top Ten Ways to Die?
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: 003Robin457 on November 23, 2008, 12:49:10 PM
I've got it now. I'll start reading it in a bit, need to finish something else first though.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: 003Robin457 on November 25, 2008, 04:11:10 PM
Ok I read it and its not realy close to Top Ten.
Quote from: Lola on November 17, 2008, 11:02:10 PM
I recieved my copy of Double Trouble today and I have to say that this is better than Murder House...IMO.

*Spoilers ahead*





Frank and Joe want to continue the investigation even though ATAC considers it closed. Why do they want to continue? One of the suspects ends up dead and the stalker didn't do it.
*Spoiler*

So technicley DD will be the first nonATAC book. (Excluding Graphics.)
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: hardy boys fan on November 29, 2008, 07:30:44 AM
Quote from: tomswift2002 on November 19, 2008, 06:30:21 PM
Doesn't this sound remarkable similar to Top Ten Ways to Die?
yeah but a little different
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: tomswift2002 on November 29, 2008, 08:30:50 AM
Even though I'm reading it right now I'm still finding that the author didn't change all that much between the Top Ten Ways to Die and Double Trouble.  We've still got the celebrity who acts like a jerk and wants everything served on a silver platter, we've got a family memeber/close acquaintance who is envious of the star's celebrity status, plus the star's manager/publicist hates working for the star.

In Top Ten Ways To Die the story was set on the set and around of a music video shoot, while in Double Trouble it is set on a movie set and the hotel that was rented by the movie company.

Plus we've got the characters who are "star-struck" over a famous star being nearby, plus we've got the annoying Conrads who add nothing to the story, prancing around being the bullies in the story.  And what is up with the friends that appear for a scene and then get ditched?
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: hardy boys fan on November 29, 2008, 08:47:08 AM
Quote from: tomswift2002 on November 29, 2008, 08:30:50 AM
Even though I'm reading it right now I'm still finding that the author didn't change all that much between the Top Ten Ways to Die and Double Trouble.  We've still got the celebrity who acts like a jerk and wants everything served on a silver platter, we've got a family memeber/close acquaintance who is envious of the star's celebrity status, plus the star's manager/publicist hates working for the star.

In Top Ten Ways To Die the story was set on the set and around of a music video shoot, while in Double Trouble it is set on a movie set and the hotel that was rented by the movie company.

Plus we've got the characters who are "star-struck" over a famous star being nearby, plus we've got the annoying Conrads who add nothing to the story, prancing around being the bullies in the story.  And what is up with the friends that appear for a scene and then get ditched?
you are right its almost the same thing
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: 003Robin457 on December 03, 2008, 07:11:03 PM
TTWTD was better.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: whitetigers on December 07, 2008, 09:47:41 AM
Quote from: 003Robin457 on December 03, 2008, 07:11:03 PM
TTWTD was better.
What is TTWTD? I know i'll be embarrassed when i find out, but at the moment i have no brains. I just got home from work this morning. Pulling back 50 pallets of toys that were still out on the floor 6 am this morning to the back recieving room was not fun.

But one good thing was that i forgot to check my mail yesterday and i looked in it this morning and a card from Borders said my book was in. Yes! I can get it today. After a nap of coarse. ::) Can't wait to read it.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: tomswift2002 on December 07, 2008, 01:22:48 PM
Top Ten Ways To Die (Undercover Brothers #8).

Sounds like you work at a Wal-Mart that's open 24 hours.
Quote from: whitetigers on December 07, 2008, 09:47:41 AM
What is TTWTD? I know i'll be embarrassed when i find out, but at the moment i have no brains. I just got home from work this morning. Pulling back 50 pallets of toys that were still out on the floor 6 am this morning to the back recieving room was not fun.

But one good thing was that i forgot to check my mail yesterday and i looked in it this morning and a card from Borders said my book was in. Yes! I can get it today. After a nap of coarse. ::) Can't wait to read it.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: whitetigers on December 07, 2008, 08:05:00 PM
No, it's not open 24/7. We close at 11pm and open up at 7am. We have to get the 100+ pallets off the floor by 7am before the customers arrive. They are building a new Wal~Mart and it will be a Super Center. I'm not looking forward to it. I like the smaller one. But we're not keeping this one. The good thing is it won't open till 2010. :)
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: tomswift2002 on December 09, 2008, 08:25:36 PM
Quote from: whitetigers on December 07, 2008, 08:05:00 PM
No, it's not open 24/7. We close at 11pm and open up at 7am. We have to get the 100+ pallets off the floor by 7am before the customers arrive. They are building a new Wal~Mart and it will be a Super Center. I'm not looking forward to it. I like the smaller one. But we're not keeping this one. The good thing is it won't open till 2010. :)

Well I'm at a Wal-Mart that's open 24/7 for the month of December, but a lot of us at the store are thinking that it will probably be going 24/7 permanently starting in late-spring/early-summer 2009 since the store will be undergoing renovations next year to become a Super Center.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: SDLagent on December 09, 2008, 11:07:04 PM
Beware! Wal-Mart is taking over the world!
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: whitetigers on December 10, 2008, 01:32:35 AM
Quote from: Santa Claus on December 09, 2008, 08:25:36 PM
Well I'm at a Wal-Mart that's open 24/7 for the month of December, but a lot of us at the store are thinking that it will probably be going 24/7 permanently starting in late-spring/early-summer 2009 since the store will be undergoing renovations next year to become a Super Center.
Oh you work at a Wal~Mart? Cool! What shift and what area? Why are they only going 24/7 in December?
We are having to do things differently to get us used to a Super Center. You don't have produce there do you?

Quote from: SDLagent on December 09, 2008, 11:07:04 PM
Beware! Wal-Mart is taking over the world!
LOL! Seems like it when all you go there every blessed day!
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: AussieIola on December 10, 2008, 04:57:08 AM
Quote from: SDLagent on December 09, 2008, 11:07:04 PM
Beware! Wal-Mart is taking over the world!


lol. maybe just up there we have NO walmart down here! :o :P
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: tomswift2002 on December 12, 2008, 06:36:44 AM
Quote from: whitetigers on December 10, 2008, 01:32:35 AM
Oh you work at a Wal~Mart? Cool! What shift and what area? Why are they only going 24/7 in December?
We are having to do things differently to get us used to a Super Center. You don't have produce there do you?

We aren't a Super Center yet.  So we only have the regular food area.

As for the 24/7 in December:  Christmas rush.

And I'm usually there between Monday-Friday during the day.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: Olivia on February 19, 2009, 07:00:10 PM
Umm, I really liked this one. I found it wayyy better written than TTWTD.

There are more things going on instead of having it be a dragged-out flat plot. There's a lot of normal things weaved in (them at school, using places in Bayport, socializing) and the "crime" stuff was believable. The characters are also more three-dimensional compared to other books, not to mention there is very good character interaction.

The only two glaring things to me (skipping over any tiny mistakes) was that the motives/means/suspects was a little ridiculous and the "stalker" thing at the end was anti-climatic.

Otherwise, I genuinely liked it. Count me as one of the odd ones out. But at least some of us enjoyed it.

ETA: I also really liked the humour consistently - as in, I liked almost all of it throughout.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: 003Robin457 on February 19, 2009, 11:47:43 PM
So would you say its da'bomb?
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: Olivia on February 22, 2009, 08:24:22 PM
Okay...if you prefer that I express it that way.

It's "da bomb".

BTW, is it me or did Frank and Joe interrupt each other's chapters more often in this one compared to other UBs?

And (spoiler): Why did that leader guy vandalize the car while Frank and Joe were in the garage? He didn't know they were there at first?
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: Frank rules on February 25, 2009, 10:38:14 PM
What kind of spoiler is that supposd to be?  ???
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: SDLagent on February 26, 2009, 03:37:10 AM
A spoiler one.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: 003Robin457 on February 26, 2009, 05:45:32 PM
It gives away part of the story so its a spoiler.

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Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: SDLagent on February 26, 2009, 06:08:17 PM
Wow. You are.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: 003Robin457 on February 26, 2009, 06:38:23 PM
Not really.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: Olivia on March 13, 2009, 02:51:21 PM
Quote from: Frank rules on February 25, 2009, 10:38:14 PM
What kind of spoiler is that supposd to be?  ???

It gives away one of the crimes and who the bad guy is.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: 4567TME on August 15, 2009, 12:08:04 PM
Double Trouble was a good start to the Double Danger trilogy
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 15, 2009, 09:58:30 PM
I hated it. I never even had to read the last one, so I didn't.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: tomswift2002 on August 16, 2009, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: ken10 on August 15, 2009, 12:08:04 PM
Double Trouble was a good start to the Double Danger trilogy

It was pretty weak, since you basically just need to read Double Deception to get the whole jist of the trilogy.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: Hardy Man on October 06, 2009, 09:40:31 PM
Double Trouble was the best in the series, followed by Double Down, and finally (in every sense of the word) Double Deception. They went spiraling down from first to second to third.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 07, 2009, 05:07:05 PM
Quote from: Hardy Man on October 06, 2009, 09:40:31 PM
Double Trouble was the best in the series, followed by Double Down, and finally (in every sense of the word) Double Deception. They went spiraling down from first to second to third.

I found that it was the other way around since the first two books were essentially rewrites of other books in the series, where as I felt that the third book actually had a stronger story that didn't die out after the first chapter.  Of course then in the Galaxy X trilogy I found that the first two books were the best and then book three was a rewrite of previous books.
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: Hardy Man on October 08, 2009, 08:14:40 PM
I hear what you're saying. I thought that it was a downward spiral, but I have to admit that Double Deception was reasonably good. It did have a fairly strong story and even though I think that the ending was rather rushed and stupid, it did have a small bit of originality to it. I mean, this is perhaps the first time that I have ever read of an instance in which a person's brother tried to kill him in a Hardy book. As for the other two, I have to disagree. I found Double Trouble to be very suspenseful and intriguing (if not a little monotonous), though I think that the part where they found out about William's guilt was a little rushed in order to get a believable ending. I liked Double Down almost as much as the first book. I liked how the Chinese gang was introduced (for perhaps the first time in the Hardy franchise) as well. The part where Slick was discovered dead was actually the second real time that I have been surprised by a murder during the UBs (the first was Ollie in Extreme Danger). I also liked the thing with the PDA at the end. It really kept me waiting for the last book in the trilogy (for perhaps the first time).
Title: Re: Double Trouble
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 11, 2009, 04:11:31 PM
In Brother Against Brother (Casefiles #11) Simon & Schuster had Frank and Joe trying to kill each other.

And in Sabotage At Sports City (Digest #115) we had a pair of identical twins (male/20's-30's) switching roles so that it would appear as if one of them was competent at all the sports in the Olympics and was able to get an Olympic gold medal.