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Title: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: SDLagent on May 21, 2009, 03:54:49 PM
New Hardy Boys releases by Grosset & Dunlap are few and far between these days, and this fall they will release ''The Hardy Boys Starter Set (http://www.amazon.com/Hardy-Boys-Starter-Set/dp/0448452332)''. ''The Starter Set'' includes redesigned paperback editions of the first six Hardy Boys novels.

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Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: 003Robin457 on May 21, 2009, 04:54:00 PM
A Paperback The Tower Treasure?
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: SDLagent on May 22, 2009, 12:25:38 AM
Yeah, I think this is a first for North America. Also, the new design looks like a huge improvement from the flash light design used since 1987.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: Olivia on May 22, 2009, 12:27:37 PM
Ooooh, I want to see the covers.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: tomswift2002 on May 22, 2009, 05:03:31 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on May 22, 2009, 12:25:38 AM
Yeah, I think this is a first for North America. Also, the new design looks like a huge improvement from the flash light design used since 1987.

If the books are actually released as Trade Paperback editions then this will indeed be a first for North America, and a change to the court ruling of 1979/80, which allowed Grosset & Dunlap to reprint the first 58 books in the same format that they had been printing them in in the 1970's.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: Lola on September 30, 2009, 03:00:21 PM
Has anyone ordered this? I pre-ordered on amazon.com but when it came it I got hardbacks not paperback covers. I called amazon and they were going to reship only I got hardback again! Supposed to get a refund now. Yesterday I went to Barns&Noble to see if they had them.....same thing. Hardbacks. The salesperson went on the computer....seems it's a problem from the publishers. They made the mistake so who knows when the paperbacks will come out. ::)
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 01, 2009, 07:39:21 AM
I got mine a few weeks ago and it appears that, right now, Grosset & Dunlap is still sticking to the court agreement and whoever input the info into the computers clicked the paperback button when it should have read hardcover.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: SDLagent on October 01, 2009, 05:18:24 PM
Is it a nice set?
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 02, 2009, 07:06:18 AM
The cardboard sleeve is pretty nice considering that it essentially looks like the old blue tweed Nancy Drew books, but with the shadows of the Hardy's. 
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: SDLagent on October 02, 2009, 03:28:34 PM
What are the books like? Still the same flash light design?
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 03, 2009, 10:48:32 AM
Quote from: SDLagent on October 02, 2009, 03:28:34 PM
What are the books like? Still the same flash light design?

They are just the same old flashlights that have been on the market for the past 22 years.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: SDLagent on October 03, 2009, 10:51:15 PM
That's kinda lame. I was hoping they re-branded them to  match the boxed set art.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 04, 2009, 01:31:45 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on October 03, 2009, 10:51:15 PM
That's kinda lame. I was hoping they re-branded them to  match the boxed set art.

Well I would think that it is getting close to that time when Grosset & Dunlap would be starting reissue the books in a new type of cover style, but using the cover art from the 1960's and 1970's. 

When you think about it:

1927: Books debut in red cover and white spine dustjackets
1932: Red covers get replaced with brown covers
1934: White spine dustjackets change to yellow spine
1951: Tan tweed covers debut
1962: Picture cover editions introduced; dustjackets discontinued
1987: Flashlight design debuts

It's been 22 years since the Flashlight design debutted, so I'm sorting of expecting Grosset & Dunlap to be announcing a design change in or for 2012 pretty soon.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 02, 2010, 09:39:10 PM
I know this is an OLD thread but I just bought them myself. I love coupons. Anyways, I don't want to open it if I should be buying the originals instead....Are these still good enough or do they not compare to their former versions?
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: SDLagent on March 02, 2010, 11:13:32 PM
Personally, I prefer the 1959-1986 style with the heads on the spine. It's a matter of personal taste, really. I just never really liked how how the 1987 flashlight style looked, design wise.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2010, 07:45:49 AM
It is definitely up to your preference really. I've got some of both the heads on the spine style and the flashlight style. Of course, I don't care too much about the style over having the actual book in some format or another.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 03, 2010, 12:15:21 PM
The cover isn't as important as the version of the story itself. Are these "newer" ones just as well written or should I hold out and buy the old versions on Amazon or Ebay?
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: SDLagent on March 03, 2010, 04:33:07 PM
No, same story. The ones you can buy in the store, new, are the revised texts of 1-38, and the original (and only) texts of 39-58.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: tomswift2002 on March 03, 2010, 06:53:10 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on March 03, 2010, 04:33:07 PM
No, same story. The ones you can buy in the store, new, are the revised texts of 1-38, and the original (and only) texts of 39-58.

You can also still buy in the "new" stores the 1927-1928 editions of #'s 1-6, with a box set of those coming out in September.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: SDLagent on March 03, 2010, 11:34:29 PM
Yeah, those are the facsimiles we've been talking about in another thread.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 04, 2010, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: tomswift2002 on March 03, 2010, 06:53:10 PM
You can also still buy in the "new" stores the 1927-1928 editions of #'s 1-6, with a box set of those coming out in September.

Perhaps I should wait until September to get the facsimiles of 1-6 and return the ones I just bought?

Part of me wants to have the older versions because that is how they came out originally. I suppose it depends on how much they were revised and why...

I really appreciate your help on this. :) I'm not totally against having both copies (OT/RT) but I do want the most bang for my buck, ya know?
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: SDLagent on March 04, 2010, 05:15:38 PM
I think the original texts and revised texts are different enough that you can own a copy of each.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 05, 2010, 01:30:30 AM
Quote from: SDLagent on March 04, 2010, 05:15:38 PM
I think the original texts and revised texts are different enough that you can own a copy of each.

That's what I wanted to know. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: tomswift2002 on March 05, 2010, 05:38:35 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on March 04, 2010, 05:15:38 PM
I think the original texts and revised texts are different enough that you can own a copy of each.

Upto #24 The Short-Wave Mystery.  After that most of the Revised Texts are simply shortened versions of theiir Original Texts.  (#37 Ghost At Skeleton Rock was simply rewritten to remove any references to Cuba, while #38 Mystery At Devil's Paw was rewritten to, essentially, remove any references to the State of Alaska as being the "New State of Alaska".)
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: MacGyver on March 05, 2010, 07:12:34 PM
Thanks for that tidbit- that's good to know. I kinda got the feeling some of the later ones weren't as drastic revisions as the earlier ones (I'm pretty sure I had read somewhere some descriptions of the two different versions with a comparison)- but it's nice to have an exact number. So maybe it's only necessary to get the first 24 original texts. The next 14 may not be all that crucial to have unless you're a true completist. 8)
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: tomswift2002 on March 05, 2010, 08:16:20 PM
Well basically after McFarlane left the Syndicate got strict on how much humour could be put into the stories, and even how much stereotyping was allowed.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 06, 2010, 12:42:03 AM
Hmm...this is all very interesting. To be honest I never thought about reading the originals as much because I have always been a die hard Casefile fan. Now that I am older I see the obvious value in reading any and all Hardy Boys stories. Frankly (HAHA), I can't get enough!!!

I suppose I shall keep the starter kit I recently purchased and plan on getting the facsimile ones in September. Just don't tell my husband!!  ;D
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: MacGyver on March 06, 2010, 10:35:51 AM
Well, the originals are the originals, after all. :) That's classic- you gotta read at least a few. Good thing we got started on The Tower Treasure, then. ;)
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 06, 2010, 11:22:48 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on March 06, 2010, 10:35:51 AM
Well, the originals are the originals, after all. :) That's classic- you gotta read at least a few. Good thing we got started on The Tower Treasure, then. ;)

This is quite true. I was about 12 when I started my Hardy Boys obsession. I read over 100 books in one summer but sadly strayed before trying any of the originals. They are classics for sure and I have already enjoyed the ones I've read. Some of the lingo or events are obviously dated but it makes me laugh and appreciate them more somehow. :)
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: SDLagent on March 07, 2010, 12:27:32 AM
Jumping catfish! They sure are swell books, I agree, chum. But I don't think the lingo's outdated in the least.
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 07, 2010, 10:07:27 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on March 07, 2010, 12:27:32 AM
Jumping catfish! They sure are swell books, I agree, chum. But I don't think the lingo's outdated in the least.

ROTFLMAO!!! What nice a fellow you are! 
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: MacGyver on March 08, 2010, 08:19:00 AM
Hmm- strong with The Force this one is. ;D
Title: Re: New Hardy Boys Starter Set
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 08, 2010, 04:49:58 PM
LOL Too funny.