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Poll
Question: Did Murder House live up to your expectations?
Option 1: Yes votes: 4
Option 2: No votes: 5
Option 3: Other votes: 0
Title: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: SDLagent on September 30, 2008, 06:08:02 PM
So, now that you've read the Murder House story arc, did it live up to your expectations? This poll will be open for 50 days and you can change your vote.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: SDLagent on September 30, 2008, 06:14:21 PM
Bluntly, NO!

Before the "trilogy" came out, I was hoping $&$ would publish a new Undercover Brothers trilogy, since the Casefiles ones were so good, and I wanted a change. So, when I first heard about the new trilogy I was really excited, expecting a "epic" mystery that took the Hardys three whole books to solve, and even hoping there might be a series changing event or two...but alas I was wrong - what we got was three stand alone mysteries in the same location that wasn't that much different from other UB, and the only change is the cover art.

A total disappointment!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on September 30, 2008, 06:16:29 PM
Well, sort of, a little bit. Not really.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: SDLagent on September 30, 2008, 06:16:53 PM
So, no?
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on September 30, 2008, 06:17:35 PM
Yeah, pretty much No.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: SDLagent on September 30, 2008, 06:20:11 PM
Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention it in my OP, but you can change your vote.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on September 30, 2008, 06:20:54 PM
Got it.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Lola on September 30, 2008, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on September 30, 2008, 06:14:21 PM
Bluntly, NO!

what we got was three stand alone mysteries in the same location that wasn't that much different from other UB, and the only change is the cover art.

A total disappointment!
I wasn't disappointed. I didn't find the three as stand alone's. IMO they were a continuation of the story/mystery with a twist added in. I know I'll probably be the only one to think so.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 01, 2008, 08:14:30 AM
Quote from: Lola on September 30, 2008, 09:06:21 PM
I wasn't disappointed. I didn't find the three as stand alone's. IMO they were a continuation of the story/mystery with a twist added in. I know I'll probably be the only one to think so.

I just finished Deprivation House and I found that the author was grasping at straws at the last minute trying to find something to keep it going into a second book.  It the author's grasping turned into a pretty illogical and stupid explanation. 


SPOILERS BELOW











With Operation Phoenix the author had a bomb go off in warehouse on a dock leaving the boys and the readers to think that Fenton Hardy had been killed and Frank stating that it was up to the Hardys to bring the killer of Fenton Hardy to justice.  But the author also left plenty of open plot points still open since there was an actual gang involved in the smuggling operation in the Endangered Species and the author kept having the crooks refer to a bigger boss.

Then with Ring Of Evil #1: Tagged for Terror we saw the Hardy's investigating a luggage theft ring and we were left thinking that until very close to the end when the Hardy's discovered a clue left by one of the people they were keeping an eye on that indicated that the luggage theft ring was just one small piece of the "pie", whereas there were a couple of other giant pieces that the boys still hadn't discovered.  Plus there was the introduction of the Network working on the same case because the Assassins were up to no good and had been using the airport where the luggage theft ring had been operating.  Then the author ends the book with the Hardys taking a flight to Alaska to go after more of the gang and leaving people wondering what is going to happen next. 

Murder House #1: Deprivation House sees the Hardys wrap up the case and get permission to stay on because they saved a person's life.  And then, in a case of coincidence, someone leaves a dead bird in a bath tub?????  That's not a good lead in to book 2 in a trilogy.  With that it felt like the author was just trying to find someway to keep the supposed story going even though the story was over.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Lola on October 01, 2008, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: tomswift2002 on October 01, 2008, 08:14:30 AM
Murder House #1: Deprivation House sees the Hardys wrap up the case and get permission to stay on because they saved a person's life.  And then, in a case of coincidence, someone leaves a dead bird in a bath tub?????  That's not a good lead in to book 2 in a trilogy.  With that it felt like the author was just trying to find someway to keep the supposed story going even though the story was over.
How funny that two people can read the same book but get a different take on it. I never thought the ending of the first book was the end....yes Frank and Joe solved the mystery and were allowed to continue the game BUT.....to me finding the dead bird let Frank and Joe know that their job wasn't done yet, that they still had to find who was sending the death threats. That's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: SDLagent on October 01, 2008, 06:18:57 PM
Spoilers ahead

I wasn't sure if it was the end, because I thought Mitch might have been working with the person who left the bird...but I was wrong, so to me it was the end of the first story (IMO).
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 02, 2008, 08:33:16 AM
And I finished the second book, House Arrest yesterday and i found that the book was the same as Deprivation House.  The author never suggested anything during the whole book saying that there was only one suspect doing the stuff until the very end when Mary is confessing and tries to convince everyone that she only did certain things.

The first two books so far have been stand-alone titles and have had no relation to either one.  The lead in to the next one has just been based on coincidence, nothing more.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on October 02, 2008, 08:22:03 PM
DEFINETLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 02, 2008, 08:25:09 PM
I just finished Murder House the book...my advice don't read it.

Rating for Deprivation House: 1.5 out 10

Rating for House Arrest: 0.25 out of 10

Rating for Murder House: 0.0005 out of 10
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on October 02, 2008, 08:26:26 PM
Translation: READ IT IF YOU ARE A UB LOVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Olivia on October 02, 2008, 10:40:40 PM
So, tomswift2002, when are you going to get into the negatives? ;)
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 03, 2008, 06:57:16 AM
Hardy Boys Undercover Brothers #18 Pushed
Published by Aladdin Paperbacks
Rating: -10 out of 10
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Bigfootman on October 03, 2008, 07:12:16 AM
Rocky Road:
-1000000
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Olivia on October 03, 2008, 11:48:26 AM
LOL! Is there such thing as a number so low it's not even a number? Ha ha.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Bigfootman on October 12, 2008, 06:55:09 PM
CHANGE YOUR NAME BACK BONES!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 18, 2008, 07:46:19 AM
Wow! Some people are right, you did bring back all of the old posts!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: 003Robin457 on October 18, 2008, 12:28:36 PM
Quote from: tomswift2002 on October 02, 2008, 08:25:09 PM
I just finished Murder House the book...my advice don't read it.

Rating for Deprivation House: 1.5 out 10

Rating for House Arrest: 0.25 out of 10

Rating for Murder House: 0.0005 out of 10

If your a UB fan subtract Netto's rateings from 10 to get your rateing.
Formula: U=N-10

Quote from: UBfan on October 02, 2008, 08:25:09 PM
I just finished Murder House the book...my advice read it.

Rating for Deprivation House: 8.5 out 10

Rating for House Arrest: 9.75 out of 10

Rating for Murder House: 9.9995 out of 10

Does Tom mind if I start caling him Netto. ;D
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 18, 2008, 12:30:42 PM
Wow... I think these rankings are messed. The UB's are way better then the rankings on here!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: 003Robin457 on October 18, 2008, 12:35:19 PM
Networkers are a little prejudgest aginst UBs.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 18, 2008, 12:37:05 PM
Is it possible to think both are good, cause I am starting to move over to the network side.. (that means you don't have to hate me anymore nzone)
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: 003Robin457 on October 18, 2008, 12:39:13 PM
I think Case files are good but all I'm saying is UBs are better.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 18, 2008, 12:40:16 PM
I agree with you robin, I will never become a Network fan, I was kidding. You all know I have always stood for UBS!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: NZone on October 18, 2008, 12:42:37 PM
I don't hate you, you just say stupid stuff sometimes ::)
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: SDLagent on October 18, 2008, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: 003Robin457 on October 18, 2008, 12:35:19 PM
Networkers are a little prejudgest aginst UBs.

Why? Because they changed almost every thing we loved about the Hardy Boys.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 18, 2008, 04:46:17 PM
Well, there don't care about the UB side of the hardy boys!!!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Sam Spade on October 18, 2008, 04:57:31 PM
Quote from: bozonessinc on October 18, 2008, 04:46:17 PM
Well, there don't care about the UB side of the hardy boys!!!

Proper English my friend, proper English. ;)
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 18, 2008, 04:59:39 PM
Sorry it should have read "then"...
I apoligize for any craziness this may have caused!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Sam Spade on October 18, 2008, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: bozonessinc on October 18, 2008, 04:59:39 PM
Sorry it should have read "then"...
I apoligize for any craziness this may have caused!

I'm just givin' ya a hard time, homeslice. :)
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 18, 2008, 06:12:44 PM
Happy 2000 Posts!!! Samspade!!!! Good luck with 3000, nice gangsta talk!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: 003Robin457 on October 19, 2008, 11:48:42 AM
Quote from: 003Robin457 on October 18, 2008, 12:35:19 PM
Networkers are a little prejudgest aginst UBs.
Quote from: SDLagent on October 18, 2008, 03:49:22 PM
Why? Because they changed almost every thing we loved about the Hardy Boys.
Prejudice weaning they pre judge things they see a UB and they thing its bad before they read it and that is there first impression and as some of you may know it takes an additional 20 positive incounters to reverse a bad first impression and it usually doesn't take 20+ days to read a UB.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 19, 2008, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: 003Robin457 on October 19, 2008, 11:48:42 AM
Prejudice weaning they pre judge things they see a UB and they thing its bad before they read it and that is there first impression and as some of you may know it takes an additional 20 positive incounters to reverse a bad first impression and it usually doesn't take 20+ days to read a UB.
Takes me 30 minutes! 2 hours for a casefile... I think!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: 003Robin457 on October 19, 2008, 01:15:28 PM
No matter what I'm reading I read a minimum of 2 chapters a day. After that I either read more, read a graphic novel or do homework.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 19, 2008, 01:27:49 PM
Really! Some days I read the whole book, I get that much into books. I know I'm addict to books!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: 003Robin457 on October 19, 2008, 01:31:30 PM
I could read a book in a day and I have before but my lifes been so bussy lately as I said 2 cahpters is a minimum.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 19, 2008, 01:34:13 PM
Sorry I read that wrong robin, yeah at least 2 for me, if i don't get that.. I am super upset at myself!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Bigfootman on October 19, 2008, 02:54:54 PM
Quote from: 003Robin457 on October 18, 2008, 12:35:19 PM
Networkers are a little prejudgest aginst UBs.
Not true! I do like some UBs, including Murder at the mall. it's the UB fans who are prejudgest about the casefiles! Besides, the UBs I think should have been a five part miniseries, cause the athors are messing up on the later UBs.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: 003Robin457 on October 19, 2008, 02:57:12 PM
Like I said before Casefiles and the Network are good but UBs and ATAC are better.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Bigfootman on October 19, 2008, 03:00:51 PM
Quote from: 003Robin457 on October 19, 2008, 02:57:12 PM
Like I said before Casefiles and the Network are good but UBs and ATAC are better.
As I said, UBs and ATAC are fine, the Casefiles were better. I've read as much as I could of the UBs, but sadly, S$S dosen't care about how about a book is just that it makes $
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Bigfootman on October 19, 2008, 03:03:37 PM
I will admit that the UBs are better then the Clue Brothers, and some of the originals, but having read over 100 hardy boys books, it's hard not to notace the UBs flaws
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 19, 2008, 06:31:40 PM
Actually I find the Clues Brothers are better than the UB's. 
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Bigfootman on October 19, 2008, 06:34:07 PM
I'm not even going to comment on that..... :-\

Ok I am. I do agree that Rocky Road was worse then the Clue Brothers, but books like Wanted, and Murder At The Mall, were way better.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Sam Spade on October 19, 2008, 06:46:17 PM
Quote from: bozonessinc on October 18, 2008, 06:12:44 PM
Happy 2000 Posts!!! Samspade!!!! Good luck with 3000, nice gangsta talk!

Thanks, bozonessinc.
I use the term "homeslice" all the time, but I'm not a gangsta. I'm a punk rocker! lol! ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 19, 2008, 06:54:05 PM
Okay, I'm surprised that that last post got through, since when I sent it, for some reason MPF went down and I couldn't even access the site by typing in hardyboyscasefiles.com or going through Google.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 20, 2008, 11:15:19 AM
Sympatico Dial Up?

Cause' it screws up all the time!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: SDLagent on October 20, 2008, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: 003Robin457 on October 19, 2008, 11:48:42 AM
Prejudice weaning they pre judge things they see a UB and they thing its bad before they read it and that is there first impression and as some of you may know it takes an additional 20 positive incounters to reverse a bad first impression and it usually doesn't take 20+ days to read a UB.

Not ture. I just read ''Murder House'' and tried to start it with a positive outlook, and the book started pretty good, but went down hill after that. IMO
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: Olivia on October 21, 2008, 08:08:25 PM
The first UBs I read I really did have a bad impression, but it can just as easily reverse itself, just as it did for a few select UBs afterwards. So I think I'm fair, anyways.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 21, 2008, 08:18:15 PM
Holy,
I just read 5 casefiles, in the last few days. I start to read a UB and I'm all whats up with the big print. It starts to sound kiddy when you read casefiles. I still love you UB's but before I never noticed the difference!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 22, 2008, 11:08:58 AM
Quote from: bozonessinc on October 21, 2008, 08:18:15 PM
Holy,
I just read 5 casefiles, in the last few days. I start to read a UB and I'm all whats up with the big print. It starts to sound kiddy when you read casefiles. I still love you UB's but before I never noticed the difference!


$&$ must use the BIG PRINT to fill up page space.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 22, 2008, 11:11:29 AM
They must, they could just make the book smaller. Or are they trying to make it easier to read for young children...
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: tomswift2002 on October 22, 2008, 11:14:33 AM
Quote from: bozonessinc on October 20, 2008, 11:15:19 AM
Sympatico Dial Up?

Cause' it screws up all the time!

I don't have dial-up.    But it was like the site, while google was able to get a trace of it, when I went to access it, it was like the site didn't exist.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: bozonessinc on October 22, 2008, 11:15:34 AM
hmm thats strange!
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: hardy boys fan on November 24, 2008, 07:47:07 AM
i finished the murder  house trilogy .it was okay not bad.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: tomswift2002 on November 24, 2008, 08:11:28 PM
Quote from: hardy boys fan on November 24, 2008, 07:47:07 AM
i finished the murder  house trilogy .it was okay not bad.

You must be the only person who didn't think that the trilogy didn't suck.   Have you read the Operation: Phoenix or Ring of Evil trilogies yet, hardy boys fan?
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: 003Robin457 on November 25, 2008, 11:00:32 AM
MH was pretty good, not the best but pretty good.I need to read OP. #65 is the begging right?
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: tomswift2002 on November 25, 2008, 12:21:30 PM
Quote from: 003Robin457 on November 25, 2008, 11:00:32 AM
MH was pretty good, not the best but pretty good.I need to read OP. #65 is the begging right?

Operation Phoenix begins with Casefiles #64 Endangered Species, then goes into #65 No Mercy and gets wrapped up in #66 The Phoenix Equation.  And if you want to read an epilogue to the story you should look for the Hardy Boys and Tom Swift Ultra Thriller Time Bomb.
Title: Re: Murder House Trilogy - did it live up to your expectations?
Post by: 003Robin457 on November 25, 2008, 01:30:50 PM
I have Time Bomb but I'm waiting to read it 'till after OP.