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Title: Hardy Men
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on August 24, 2008, 05:23:11 PM
I'm not really sure about the movie because it might just make fun of the Hardy Boys instead of solving a real mystery or something.
I think they should make a Hardy Boys movie with teenagers instead of adults.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 05:25:25 PM
It most likely will make fun of the Hardy Boys. I don't think anybody would want to see a movie that makes fun of their favorite series.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: 003Robin457 on August 24, 2008, 05:26:07 PM
I dont know. ??? I just can't see Frank and Joe not talking for years  >:( >:( but then agin movies can surprise you.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 05:29:58 PM
Well, if you really want to know my answer...









NO!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: 003Robin457 on August 24, 2008, 05:33:23 PM
Needless to say The Hardy Men sceres me. At first I thought it was cool, but the more I here of it... *sigh* :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 05:36:24 PM
I will NEVER EVER see that movie. I wouldn't see it if it was the last movie on earth. I wouldn't see it if somebody paid me too see it. >:( >:( :P ::)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 05:44:36 PM
Psst, JoeHardyRocks. Take the money to see it, then put on your blindfold and put in ear plugs. Donate the money for a real HBs movie ;)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: 003Robin457 on August 24, 2008, 05:47:00 PM
How much money? ::)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 05:48:09 PM
I know, good question. How about we all go "see" it ;) and then pool our money together. It should total $20...enough to buy the paper that the script needs.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: 003Robin457 on August 24, 2008, 05:49:25 PM
But not the ink!  :( :'( :( :'( :( :'( :(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: NZone on August 24, 2008, 05:49:37 PM
I'm not sure
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Bigfootman on August 24, 2008, 06:22:26 PM
The 2 words that make me think this is going to terrible:
Ben Stiller
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 06:49:12 PM
And Tom Cruise as Frank? Nice casting! ::)

When I first heard about this movie and who would be playing the characters (not that I have anything huge against the actors) I just kept going around saying, "I can't believe it!" I think I had a shocked expression on my face for 3 days...
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Kerin on August 24, 2008, 08:18:04 PM
I'd watch it out of curiosity.
But then again, curiosity killed the cat.

I don't think it would be too bad if Frank and Jow were still good friends, instead of not talking for years.
I just don't see them doing that, they're so close in the books.
I think FrankJoeATAC is right, they should make a movie where they were teenagers.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 08:19:09 PM
Who do you think would be good people to play teenager Frank  and Joe?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 08:20:30 PM
I'd have to think about that, Firefox!

As for the movie, I strongly got the impression that it is suppose to be a comedy/parody. So that alone...*sighs*
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 08:22:39 PM
I'd have to think about that, Firefox!


Ok, but, um, i'm not Firefox! ::) :D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 08:24:13 PM
Oops! Sorry x 100 :D

I think it's because I was reading fast, and I just saw your avatar so...:-X
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 08:24:45 PM
That's Ok. :D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Sam Spade on August 24, 2008, 08:25:10 PM
Ok, but, um, i'm not Firefox! ::) :D

If you don't want people to mistake you for Firefox, you should change your avatar.


Anyway, I said.....................NO!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 08:27:51 PM
I don't like any of the other ones. ;)

Anyway, I reallyreallyreallyREALLY don't want them to make a Hardy Men movie. :o :P ::) :D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 08:29:08 PM
And it was my mistake...

As for the movie, it looks like it has been in planning stages for years. So hopefully it never comes to pass.

I can't believe they'll put money into something like this, and not just a regular, decent Hardy Boys movie...even it it is mediocre.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Kerin on August 24, 2008, 08:30:34 PM
Who do you think would be good people to play teenager Frank  and Joe?

I can't think of anyone right off the top of my head.
Lucas Gabriel, looks a little like Joe.But I'm not sure if he would do good with the part.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 08:32:37 PM
Maybe, but he may not be serious enough. ::) ;)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 08:37:58 PM
It can be difficult to find the right person in looks and in acting ability/temperment. Especially for a huge part like this.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on August 24, 2008, 08:41:34 PM
If they did do a teenage Hardy Boys movie, they would probably have auditions and find two brand new stars to play Frank and Joe, instead of well known teenage actors.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 08:42:27 PM
Yeah, but they'd have to be great actors and look the part. :D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 08:45:04 PM
I agree with both of you - going with unknowns could be a good thing, but they would have to have the "goods" too, so to speak.

Maybe we can keep our eyes peeled because there are lots of actors that have small parts that are overlooked.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 08:47:40 PM
Sometimes in stores or something, I see people and I think ' He would make a good Joe Hardy!' or something like that... :-\ ;)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Kerin on August 24, 2008, 08:47:56 PM
I could ask a friend of mine to play callie. :D Lol.
She a really good actor and she's about the right age too.

Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 08:55:55 PM
That's funny, JoeHardyRocks! Always have your camera phone ready so we can get a headshot ;) (That is, if you have one).

peace&love, that sounds cool. Actually, I would love to be in the movie myself. I don't know who I could play though. Come to think of it, I would prefer a small part so I don't have as much pressure :D But nah. There are oozles of people out there that are better and want it more.

You know, we should all be extras! Okay, I'm getting way to excited at the (im)possibility of this...
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on August 24, 2008, 08:59:52 PM
It would be fun to be extras though! We could all just play people in a crowd or something. ;D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 09:00:45 PM
Or screaming citizens as WARD blows up Bayport or something. ;D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 09:07:16 PM
Or their classmates! Or people at the mall.

Or people at the ATAC headquarters. Depends which series the books are going to be based upon. I don't really care which, as long as it's nothing like The Hardy Men! As long as they don't overdo it on certain aspects.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 09:12:04 PM
If they did do a good HB movie, which series do you think they would base it on? ??? ::) :)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Kerin on August 24, 2008, 09:13:24 PM
I prefer the casefiles, but then again I'm sure alot of people prefer the UBs.

Maybe they should mix it a little bit.Like kinda go half way for both.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 09:14:45 PM
It would be cool for ANYTHING except the Hardy Men! :P
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 09:17:59 PM
Truthfully, I think they would do something neutral-ish. You know what I mean? Just Frank and Joe without any big drama (i.e. Iola's death, or ATAC and so on). peace&love was sorta getting at that too.

It would probably get more audiences together that way as well. But if not, they would probably base it on the newer books because it's the most "modern" and kids are more likely to go see it.

However, I'm a little unsure of that as well because I don't think HB:UB are selling well. But it could give a boost the series, I suppose.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on August 24, 2008, 09:19:37 PM
You're right Olivia about the possible teenage HB movie being neutral, because not all people would know about WARD or ATAC or anything llike that.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 09:20:39 PM
Yeah, like Frank and Joe not working for anyone, just finding a case, or maybe a friend asks them to solve a case or something. That would be cool.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 09:23:49 PM
But seriously, I can't even believe they are considering The Hardy Men. (I know it's been in talks forever and there isn't really a step foward on it yet, but w/e).

I'm sure all the millions of fans out there would be sooo mad. It's a dumb idea, if you think about it.

And the people who would like the movie wouldn't care if it was Frank & Joe or not. So why don't they go make fun of somebody else or come up with their own original idea ::)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 09:25:29 PM
They should just stop the production before the angry mob shows up. ::) J/K! ;)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Kerin on August 24, 2008, 09:25:40 PM
So why don't they go make fun of somebody else or come up with their own original idea ::)

Maybe they ran out of ideas, so they stooped to making fun of mystery book series'.
They did the same thing with Nancy Drew.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on August 24, 2008, 09:27:38 PM
Yeah, me and JHR decided we wouldn't see Nancy Drew because she doesn't act like that in the books and we thought it looked really dumb.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 09:28:31 PM
But our Mom got it from Blockbuster and we watched it.Nancy Drew wasn't an awful movie, it was OK.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 09:35:59 PM
For sure, I didn't think the ND movie was as bad as I thought, but it was still out there.

I got an idea from JHR - to protest, we should dress up like WARD and the Assassins and storm the official offices! J/K.

Well, we could make one large heartfelt letter from all of us. Even other people on the Internet. Like, "100 reasons why the Hardy Men should not exist".
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Kerin on August 24, 2008, 09:38:11 PM
For sure, I didn't think the ND movie was as bad as I thought, but it was still out there.

I got an idea from JHR - to protest, we should dress up like WARD and the Assassins and storm the official offices! J/K.

Well, we could make one large heartfelt letter from all of us. Even other people on the Internet. Like, "100 reasons why the Hardy Men should not exist".


We'll picket the story writers houses!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 09:43:07 PM
The 100 reasons the Hardy Men shouldn't exist


#100 the MPF members dont want it to >:(
#99 the MPF members dont want it to >:(
#97 the MPF mambers dont want it to >:(
#96 the MPF members dont want it to >:(
#95 the MPF members dont want it to >:(
#94 the MPF members dont want it to >:(
#93 the MPF members dont want it to >:(
#92 the MPF members dont want it to >:(
#91 the MPF members dont want it to >:(
......................................................
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Kerin on August 24, 2008, 09:45:29 PM
#90 The Hardy bros' not speaking to each other defies the laws of everything good and right!

lol, sorry I'm on a suger rush right now!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 09:46:55 PM
#89 It will be a dumb movie!!! >:(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 09:47:53 PM
LOL, JoeHardyRocks at #100-91. But it looks like half the votes are for "not sure" ::)

peace&love, that's a really good and important point.

#88 The Hardy Boys are not Men (well, they're not exactly boys either but w/e). And changing the title won't change our minds.

Everyone, feel free to post your reasons! Even if they only half-make sense ;)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 09:49:34 PM
#87 The actors are not good for the Hardy Boys! >:(

P.S. good point olivia!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 09:53:38 PM
For real, JHR!

#86 Because millions of fans will be disappointed and horrified compared to 100 people who might like it.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 09:55:12 PM
#85 It is butchering the Hardy's good name! >:(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 09:58:32 PM
Wow, this is awesome stuff! Really! I bet we could keep going and pick the best ones, although all of them are really good so maybe not!

#84 It is butchering Cruise and Stiller's good name ;)

Okay, but for real: Edward Stratemeyer and Leslie McFarlane (the creator and first real ghostwriter, respectively) would roll in their graves. Well, I don't know if this would count.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 10:01:13 PM
#83 Because the ATAC and Network fans actually agree on something - that it's a bad idea!

Got to get going. But talk to you all soon :)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 10:01:46 PM
#82 Ben Stiller is to old to be Joe, even if it is the Hardy Men. If he is THAT old, it would be the Hardy Grandpas!!! >:( He has gray hair.

See ya olivia! ;)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 24, 2008, 10:06:30 PM
LOL! I just had to see one more post. Okay, then.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 10:06:57 PM
Bye! :D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 10:10:18 PM
#81 The only people who will WANT to see this movie have no sense of humor. >:(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Kerin on August 24, 2008, 10:14:04 PM
#81 The only people who will WANT to see this movie have no sense of humor. >:(

Everyone has a sense of humor.They just obviously have a very poor one.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on August 24, 2008, 10:14:48 PM
#80 People who do see this movie will think the Hardy Boys are stupid even if they didn't read the books.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 24, 2008, 10:17:16 PM
Yeah, FJATAC, That's butchering their good name!

#79 The only people who will see this movie are probably the producers and the actors ::) >:(

If anyone votes 'Yes' in this poll, I will be TOTALLY SHOCKED!!! :o
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 25, 2008, 12:00:57 AM
#78 It will just make fun of the two people a whole forum was built around. :'( >:(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: NZone on August 25, 2008, 05:31:02 PM
it could be funny, you never know  ::)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: NZone on August 25, 2008, 05:37:15 PM
There can be funny parodies, like the Hardon Boys, but there can also be unfunny parodies like the Hardly Boys on South Park. It all depends on which one they are trying to do.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: 003Robin457 on August 25, 2008, 05:37:45 PM
#77. A movie sitting in WalMarts $5.50 box wont do the HBs any good.

The future of the HBs could be cool but they are doing it all Wrong! If I could make this movie it would be the HBs would be still fighting crime together and would come across some clue to some way they could stop the Assassins and would try to take them down for good! In the process they would discover that Iola is still alive possably working for the Assassins undercover. They would take down the Assassins and Joe would get Iola back.
(Yeah I like happy endings. ;D )
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 25, 2008, 05:43:34 PM
it could be funny, you never know  ::)

It won't be for the reasons listed, especially since it's taking something that people care about. You could make the funniest movie in the world, but if it's at the expense of something you like, it wouldn't matter (to me and some here on the board, anyways).

Like I said, they could probably come up with a better idea or make fun of something else - not only because some of us want them to lay off the Hardys, but because it would probably work a lot better overall. I'm sure they can come up with another idea or change the premise or something.

It wouldn't be Frank and Joe at all. It would just be caricatures.

Sorry for that rant. You can like or be open to the movie all you want, I'm not trying to push anything on you...:-\

There can be funny parodies, like the Hardon Boys, but there can also be unfunny parodies like the Hardly Boys on South Park. It all depends on which one they are trying to do.

Okay, I see what you mean. But wouldn't it be better to have a Saturday Night Live sketch or something and then put the movie resources to making an actual cool, action flick? Kind of what we were saying earlier in this thread and what Robin is getting at.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: NZone on August 25, 2008, 05:46:29 PM
who says its going to be all parody, I'm sure there will be some parody, some action, and some good Hardy stuff, maybe like the Get Smart movie.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: 003Robin457 on August 25, 2008, 05:49:44 PM
I liked the Get Smart Movie! Say, does Get Smart have its own disscusion?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 25, 2008, 05:55:08 PM
who says its going to be all parody, I'm sure there will be some parody, some action, and some good Hardy stuff, maybe like the Get Smart movie.

Mmmm true. But I don't think it fits with the Hardys or I don't want it to anyways. Well, I know a parody is not meant to be serious but whatever...

I can picture how they would make fun of Joe, sort of...but how will they do Frank? Emphasize his "geekiness" or make it like an Abbott/Costello where one is serious and the other isn't?

The impression I got, though, is that it will be mostly a parody.

As for Get Smart, well, the point of the show and the movie is to make fun of the guy in the agency anyways.

It seems like it's mostly the females on this board who are against this movie. Hmm.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: NZone on August 25, 2008, 06:00:38 PM
Yeah, prob cuz guys like Stiller and Wilson, as well as Carey and Sandler
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 25, 2008, 07:50:16 PM
#76 Because a comedy sketch would be more appropriate while a movie that more people can enjoy can and should be distributed.

Yes, I recycle.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 25, 2008, 08:50:37 PM
Someone voted "yes"? I pity the fool.

#75
Good riddens to bad rubbish.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: tomswift2002 on August 25, 2008, 09:37:52 PM
Someone voted "yes"? I pity the fool.


Who are you calling a fool?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 25, 2008, 09:48:51 PM
Well...was it you who voted? Or are you defending an anonymous source.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on August 26, 2008, 12:13:34 AM
My number one problem with this movie is the first feature film ever to be based on The Hardy Boys should NOT be a spoof. Maybe if there was already a movie but I repeat, I do not like the idea of having the first Hardy movie ever be a spoof.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: tomswift2002 on August 26, 2008, 08:23:54 AM
Where did everyone get the idea that the movie was going to be a spoof?  I realize that it is set about 2 decades after the books, but other than that, I don't see a possibility of a spoof as any more likely than it is going to be a movie that is based on the books, and has a good story line.

Look at the 1995 Hardy Boys TV series.  Frank was 22 and Joe was 20 in the series.  Nobody called that series a spoof, even though we've never seen Frank or Joe in their 20's in the books.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Q on August 26, 2008, 11:07:56 AM
Where's the NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! option?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on August 26, 2008, 05:01:41 PM
Where did everyone get the idea that the movie was going to be a spoof?  I realize that it is set about 2 decades after the books, but other than that, I don't see a possibility of a spoof as any more likely than it is going to be a movie that is based on the books, and has a good story line.

Look at the 1995 Hardy Boys TV series.  Frank was 22 and Joe was 20 in the series.  Nobody called that series a spoof, even though we've never seen Frank or Joe in their 20's in the books.

Ah, Ben Stiller, Tom Cruise, and Victoria Beckham? That doesn't sound like faithful adaptation to me.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 26, 2008, 07:17:52 PM
The first time I heard and read about the movie it said it was going to be a parody, and I saw that in more than one place. I know it could be outdated or unreliable, but I remember it was actual articles.

Things might've been changed or maybe it was rumours. Still, I'm pretty sure it's suppose to be a comedy at least, and that just doesn't ring right with me.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: NZone on August 26, 2008, 07:36:17 PM
Ah, Ben Stiller, Tom Cruise, and Victoria Beckham? That doesn't sound like faithful adaptation to me.

So who would you have play them?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on August 26, 2008, 07:38:11 PM
Go to HDA, and check out there "Who would you cast in a Hardy Men/Boys movie?'' thread, it's pretty good.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: NZone on August 26, 2008, 07:42:39 PM
I dont want to have to create an account, can you just summarize?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 26, 2008, 08:27:42 PM
Where did everyone get the idea that the movie was going to be a spoof?  I realize that it is set about 2 decades after the books, but other than that, I don't see a possibility of a spoof as any more likely than it is going to be a movie that is based on the books, and has a good story line.

Look at the 1995 Hardy Boys TV series.  Frank was 22 and Joe was 20 in the series.  Nobody called that series a spoof, even though we've never seen Frank or Joe in their 20's in the books.

Come on, obviously they weren't going to put a comedic twist on it because it was a series (sure, there was humour but that's different). Can you imagine a series where all they would do is make fun of the Hardys every single time? Yes, anything is possible, but that's just ridiculous.

And Frank and Joe were still young in the '95 series, not middle-aged. They also still got along, still solved mysteries together, and so on. It has a more feasible concept than The Hardy Men and respected the series more too.

Of course, this is just an opinion.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 26, 2008, 08:38:06 PM
#74 This is the first HB movie and they will turn it into a joke. >:(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 26, 2008, 08:44:04 PM
Wow, JHR, you're always angry every time you list a reason ;)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Sam Spade on August 27, 2008, 03:47:16 AM
Go to HDA, and check out there "Who would you cast in a Hardy Men/Boys movie?'' thread, it's pretty good.

Yeah, I was just on HDA, and I saw this guy named SpencerDL...huh, what's everybody think of him? I'm glad he's not on this forum! ;) ;) ;) (joking ;D)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: tomswift2002 on August 27, 2008, 10:50:38 AM
Here's a new trailer from the movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AdFA6WWJ7E
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 27, 2008, 11:12:49 AM
For those who haven't seen the trailer, and not to spoil it:

I knew it couldn't be a trailer, maybe some news footage or something else that would make fun of the movie. But good one, Tom ;)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on August 27, 2008, 04:55:47 PM
I dont want to have to create an account, can you just summarize?

You don't need to...

http://www.hardydetectiveagency.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9070
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 27, 2008, 06:22:40 PM
Thanks for posting that, SDLagent.

So I've been reading through the entries and I can't believe they put down that guy who played Peter Pan. Sorry, that just makes me laugh :D I don't know, anything's possible I guess if he puts on an attitude.

They also put down that guy who plays Alex Rider. If he could also add an attitude and lose the accent...

Finally, a couple of guys who used to be on soaps, the guys from The O.C., people from the Narnia movies, Shawn Asmore, Drew Fuller (sp.?), a few more.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Sam Spade on August 27, 2008, 06:34:34 PM
They also put down that guy who plays Alex Rider. If he could also add an attitude and lose the accent...

Finally, a couple of guys who used to be on soaps, the guys from The O.C., people from the Narnia movies, Shawn Asmore, Drew Fuller (sp.?), a few more.

Shawn Ashmore is the guy who played Iceman in the X-MEN movies, right?
Anyway, what do you guys think about Shia Leboeuf? Do ya think he could play one of the boys?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on August 27, 2008, 06:40:03 PM
He might be able to do a good job..
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 27, 2008, 06:47:56 PM
Olivia, Casting Director on duty. Well, I went perusing around the 'net and I have a couple choices. Keep in mind that I am thinking as a "professional", so looking at commercial appeal/agreeability among fans. So I'm not necessarily going for everything I put down myself. Feel free to state your honest opinion.

Possible Frank and Callie:

http://www.pe.com/entertainment/stories/PE_Fea_Daily_D_tv.soapwriters1130.e7c7bf.html <---scroll to the middle

http://a.abc.com/daytime/mail/hotsheet/images/190x190/190x190_gh_maxinecoop.jpg


Possible Joe and Iola or Vanessa:

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/rmcosu/ll3-1.jpg

http://www.daytimeconfidential.com/system/files/u1/lnl30001.jpg


I'll probably keep looking too.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Sam Spade on August 27, 2008, 07:01:58 PM
The Callie's might work. And the Frank in the second shot might work too. I think there are better choices for Frank out there though, so KEEP LOOKING, OLIVIA! ;)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 27, 2008, 07:06:58 PM
Iola/Vanessa/Callie:

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1910804992/nm1430154

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3251933696/nm0888882

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1077779712/nm0424481

http://images.askmen.com/women/singer_300/376_alexz_johnson.jpg

P.S. It's hard to find a good Frank and Joe!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 27, 2008, 07:10:57 PM
Wow! Those are good! The 1st one could be Vanessa, the 2nd one could be Iola, and the 4th one couls be Callie. :)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Sam Spade on August 27, 2008, 07:13:57 PM
Hmmm...maybe. I don't like the last shot though.
FIND ME A CHET, OLIVIA! ;) ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 27, 2008, 07:14:48 PM
Haha, I was actually thinking the 1st one could be Iola or Vanessa, and the 2nd one might be Callie.

But like the post reads, any of them could be any of them ;)

A Chet, huh? I'll see what I can dig up! Wait, what kind of Chet?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 27, 2008, 07:20:40 PM
Chet (kid on the right):

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3185875712/nm0992306

Sorta kidding on that, though. I don't know if I'm way off target or not.

Joe:

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1479970816/nm1591666

A bit too innocent-looking.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Sam Spade on August 27, 2008, 07:23:46 PM
I don't like the Chet...FIND ANOTHER ONE! (joking ;))

The Joe could work for a UB Joe.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 27, 2008, 07:28:30 PM
He looks a little bit to calm to be Joe, but he might work... :)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on August 28, 2008, 04:15:24 AM
Thanks for posting that, SDLagent.

They also put down that guy who plays Alex Rider. If he could also add an attitude and lose the accent...

Hay, watch what you say I posted that! *shocked*

I like some of your Vanessa's, and one of your Joes or Franks. I'm yet to see someone I really like as Frank even on HDA.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 28, 2008, 03:54:45 PM
Hay, watch what you say I posted that! *shocked*

I like some of your Vanessa's, and one of your Joes or Franks. I'm yet to see someone I really like as Frank even on HDA.

Did you post that here or there? I remember you mentioned it here. If it was also over there, I wasn't looking at the names :-\

Glad there's some positivity regarding my posts. I also find that Frank is a little harder to find than Joe.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on August 28, 2008, 04:35:07 PM
I was just kiding Oliviatocali.

BTW, how do you find these pictures? It's not like you can just search "actors good for frank".
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: 003Robin457 on August 29, 2008, 06:25:06 PM
Man the studio should just hire you guys! ;D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 30, 2008, 07:18:28 PM
I was just kiding Oliviatocali.

BTW, how do you find these pictures? It's not like you can just search "actors good for frank".

I figured, but I was still serious about what I said.

I've seen a lot of TV in my time, or at least seen an overview of a lot of different shows and different faces. So I look them up, even if they were just a guest star and sometimes the trail just keeps going. Sometimes I even look up random shows that I've heard of.

I know a couple of them were from soaps, a couple from Canadian/American shows, and the one guy I've seen on a short-lived ABC show and now he's on Disney.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 30, 2008, 09:24:11 PM
I'm just going to categorize them as "girls" and "guys" within the Hardy World, so it's pretty open-ended for choosing faces with specific characters - it could be any of their "chums" too.

P.S. I tried to find the best photo by retrieving names and going into Google images in addition to IMDB.

Girls: (keep in mind their hair/makeup can change)

1. http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2969473536/nm1257092

2.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2919536384/nm1501624 <--girl on the right
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2818873088/nm1501624

3. http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/toronto/toronto_film_festival_2007_portrait_studio_photos/nina_dobrev/portrait.jpg
http://www.celebritywonder.com/picture/Nina_Dobrev/ActressNinaD_John_Shea_15727184.jpg <--with straighter hair

4. http://laminatedlist.blogspot.com/2007/04/visionary-thinking-44.html <--first photo
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2202570752/nm1433900
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2219347968/nm1433900

5. http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1038455040/nm1011682

6. http://us.imdb.com/media/rm2348193792/nm1015262
http://us.imdb.com/media/rm3314849280/nm1015262

7. http://a.abc.com/daytime/generalhospital/images/gallery/gh_monaco_12.jpg <--an older version of a character


Guys:


1. http://www.imdb.com/media/rm678465536/nm1329780

2. http://www.soapsonabc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/brandon-barash-autographed-photo-big.jpg

3. http://bradfordandersononline.com/images/my%20newly%20resized%20pic%20of%20him.jpg
http://i22.tinypic.com/2m60o53.jpg <--dude on the left

4. http://www.soapdom.com/upload/GH_Wk12-27-04_BurtonMonaco2.jpg <--an older Joe & girl (same older actress as above)

http://www.wchstv.com/abc/genhosp/i/steveburton.jpg <--yeah, he looks pretty intense but it's the lighting
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q1/julieshaver_2007/steve_burton71.jpg

5. http://www.buddytv.com/articles/Image/General-Hospital/Greg-Vaughn-profile.jpg <--an older Frank?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 30, 2008, 09:30:06 PM
I liked girl #6, but they're all really good olivia! :D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 30, 2008, 09:32:06 PM
Yeah, but do you just like her, or do you like her for an actual character in a HBs movie? See, I sometimes have a problem distinguishing myself because they could be a great individual, but will they fit? Oh well.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 30, 2008, 09:33:18 PM
Maybe for Iola, or Vannessa. :-\ :)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 30, 2008, 09:50:52 PM
I always picture Iola with pixie-like features (but not her hair), and I don't know if there is actually a description like that somewhere or if it's some weird thing I made up in my mind.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 30, 2008, 09:52:48 PM
I just imagine Vanessa kind of like Gabriella on High School Musical and Iola kind of like with short shoulder length blonde hair with blue eyes, or thats the image that comes up in my mind whenever I say Iola or Vanessa. :-\ :)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on August 31, 2008, 01:17:48 AM
Iola has dark hair and green eyes, while Vanessa has ash blond hair and blue eyes. it's funny how you can get a picture of a character in your head and then it turns out to be completely wrong. Happend to me with Biff, i always thought of him with black hair and then I found out he was blond! Sort of like you with Iola.

I always picture Iola with pixie-like features (but not her hair), and I don't know if there is actually a description like that somewhere or if it's some weird thing I made up in my mind.

Nope you didn't make it up - in the originals (after the first few, in which she was slightly plump) she is described as having "pixie-like features".
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on August 31, 2008, 01:31:53 PM
I wasn't sure about Iola's eye colour...but how is Callie described? I always thought she was blonde with blue eyes too but now I'm reading in other places that she has brownish hair? Unless that was just in the original "Originals".
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: White Eagle on August 31, 2008, 03:05:38 PM
It most likely will make fun of the Hardy Boys. I don't think anybody would want to see a movie that makes fun of their favorite series.

I Agree. It just doesn't seem like a very good TV-to-movie idea.
But as for the cast, I think Tom Cruise and Matthew Fox would be good.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on August 31, 2008, 06:09:18 PM
For a UB Frank and Joe?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: tomswift2002 on August 31, 2008, 06:18:53 PM
How about getting Paul Popowich to return and maybe the actor who played "Mark" on Home Improvement?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on September 01, 2008, 03:23:11 PM
Paul Popowich is actually working as a Theatre/Film T.A. at a University in the next town! Maybe I should go and say whatssup.

Just kidding :D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on September 02, 2008, 01:18:02 AM
I wasn't sure about Iola's eye colour...but how is Callie described? I always thought she was blonde with blue eyes too but now I'm reading in other places that she has brownish hair? Unless that was just in the original "Originals".

Originally Callie had brown hair and brown eyes, but when the books were revised it was changed to blond (after #1 in which she has brown hair). Since then she has had brown hair and blue eyes except for in Casefiles #1 ''Dead on Target, in which the author mistakenly used her original brown coloring. The only time she is ever described as having blue eyes is in the Digest ''Kickoff to Danger''.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: NZone on September 02, 2008, 07:26:30 PM
well, females can change their hair color you know  ::) (as well as wear colored contacts)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 02, 2008, 08:56:43 PM
Negative Zone, your signature is awful! ::) :o
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on September 02, 2008, 10:57:30 PM
well, females can change their hair color you know  ::) (as well as wear colored contacts)

Okay, so I'd say she has brown eyes and blond hair, but has died her hair brown a few times, and once had blue contacts (even though she doesn't have eyesight problems).
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on September 03, 2008, 07:36:37 PM
Frank ??? ??? ???

http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/m/matt_long/thumbnails/tn2_matt_long_2.jpg

http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/m/matt_long/thumbnails/tn2_matt_long_1.jpg

Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on September 03, 2008, 07:48:51 PM
Paul Popowich is actually working as a Theatre/Film T.A. at a University in the next town! Maybe I should go and say whatssup.

Just kidding :D

Just to clarify, I'm not kidding about him being in the next town. Just on the whatssup part.

#73 Because even amateurs can cast better...sort of.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 04, 2008, 10:10:55 PM
#72. They shouldn't even be making the Hardy men, because if they ever make a movie, it has always been the Hardy Boys!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: tomswift2002 on September 05, 2008, 04:21:49 PM
Would it have been better if they called it The Hardy Brothers?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 05, 2008, 05:01:45 PM
Just because you change the title doesn't  make it a better movie, so no.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on September 06, 2008, 12:34:50 PM
See my #88 on p.4 ;)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on September 07, 2008, 01:11:11 PM
#71 Because if it even comes to fruition, then this is what the rest of the cast would look like:

The Gray Man/Q/Chief Collig:
http://derelictdiorama.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/george-w-bush.jpeg

Laura Hardy:

http://pictures.directnews.co.uk/liveimages/Hilary+Clinton_669_18300132_0_0_14571_300.jpg

Aunt Gertrude/Trudy:
http://www.mediabistro.com/unbeige/original/martha%20stewart.gif

Frank's offspring:
http://susanjanic.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/jonas-brothers.jpg

Joe's offspring:
http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Hannah-Montana.jpg
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 07, 2008, 02:04:28 PM
Perfect! ;D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Sam Spade on September 07, 2008, 03:25:54 PM
That's hilarious, Olivia!
I especially like The Gray Man! LOL!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 07, 2008, 06:01:19 PM
I like Frank and Joes kids. ;D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on September 07, 2008, 08:44:52 PM
Aww, so nobody likes the two older ladies? Just kidding.

Oh yeah, and this character will still be around because they live that long:

http://parrots4parties.com/images/parrot_in_a_hat-sm.jpg
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Sam Spade on September 07, 2008, 11:05:28 PM
I don't know Olivia, he doesn't look quite right to me, is he a good actor? ;) ;) ;) (j/k)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Jokerette on September 27, 2008, 08:16:52 AM
#70.they totally have to be younger to make it work!

i wonder what SnowSk8er thinks?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: 003Robin457 on September 27, 2008, 08:20:21 AM
When I first heard they had not spoken was the first time I thought That might not be such a grate movie!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on September 27, 2008, 12:00:12 PM
Who hasn't spoken?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 27, 2008, 09:46:32 PM
Frank and Joe! :o
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on September 27, 2008, 10:40:45 PM
So, Frank and Joe "had not spoken" so it's not a great movie?

Still don't get it, but okay.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on September 28, 2008, 01:05:05 AM
Okay, finally managed to glean a meaning out of Robin's post - he means that he doesn't like the Hardy Men, because in it the Hardys haven't spoken to each other in years.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Lola on September 28, 2008, 11:13:17 AM
Okay, finally managed to glean a meaning out of Robin's post - he means that he doesn't like the Hardy Men, because in it the Hardys haven't spoken to each other in years.
This is what makes me think the movie is going to be based on the '77 television series. "Game Plan" was the last episode to air and at the end you see Frank riding away....during the whole episode, Frank didn't like the assignment AND lying about why they were at the motorcross race whereas Joe felt it was part of the job.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: tomswift2002 on September 28, 2008, 03:27:34 PM
This is what makes me think the movie is going to be based on the '77 television series. "Game Plan" was the last episode to air and at the end you see Frank riding away....during the whole episode, Frank didn't like the assignment AND lying about why they were at the motorcross race whereas Joe felt it was part of the job.

Good idea, but the 77 series is owned by Universal Pictures.  20th Century Fox is the studio that wants to make The Hardy Men.  Also, how many people remember how the 77 series ends?  I don't know how it ends since I haven't seen the third season.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Lola on September 28, 2008, 04:14:01 PM
"Game Plan" was the last episode to air when the series was cancelled. The studio never did a series finale. At the end of the episode is Frank(parker stevenson)riding away on a motorbike a sad expression on his face and there is a voice over of Ana Alicia(from Falcon Crest, can't recall her characters name on HB). She played a mentally disturbed girl who was trying to kill a female motorbike racer, Frank and Joe were hired to protect the racer because her father was testifying against some mobster.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Kerin on September 28, 2008, 04:17:34 PM
Even if the Hardy's were mad at each other, I still don't see them not talking for years.
A few days maybe, but years?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 28, 2008, 07:19:50 PM
Never!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on September 29, 2008, 09:55:50 PM
I don't care how believable they can make it.

It being The Hardy MEN in the first place is unbelievable.

Unless they make it a three-quarter and quarter movie. Hmm, that would be interesting. Show them as teens, and then adults? I didn't think I could compromise but this idea just came out of the blue!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on September 29, 2008, 11:19:13 PM
As I've said before, the FIRST movie based on the Hardy Boys should be about BOYS.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on September 30, 2008, 05:56:34 PM
Definitely.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: 003Robin457 on September 30, 2008, 05:58:11 PM
Agred!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: tomswift2002 on September 30, 2008, 06:25:36 PM
I think the Hardy Men will be a great movie when its released.  It will be really interesting to see the Hardy Boys as adults and see how advancing the continuity of the Hardy Boys past their 20's would look and feel. 

Now then I do realize that there is the possibilty that Fox could hire the wrong writers or actors or crew, but considering how well Fox handled the X-Men movies I think Fox is a good studio for Simon & Schuster to be dealing with in terms of getting a Hardy Boys movie made.  Plus with it being delayed I hope that that means that the story is constantly being rewritten and upgraded to the point where it will have a really good plot that will be reminiscent of the original Hardy Boys books (and not the UB's).
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on September 30, 2008, 06:31:37 PM
I wouldn't mind a Hardy Men movie if there was already a Hardy BOYS movie...I just don't think would be a good way to introduce people to the Hardy World.

Also, for the record, I don't think the hardy's vocie actors would make good Hardy boys in a live-action movie.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on September 30, 2008, 06:33:01 PM
I thought Cody Linley would be a pretty good Joe.

And I also don't think it's a good way for people to first see the Hardys like that, it should've started with Hardy BOYS not MEN.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on September 30, 2008, 07:56:12 PM
I think Cody would make a great Joe!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on September 30, 2008, 10:21:21 PM
I think Cody might be decent as a UBs Joe. I really underestimated his acting ability, but then again, I don't know how he would do in a variety of scenes (i.e. action as opposed to goofing off).

When we're talking about actors for parts, are we thinking about the HBs in general, or a specific series? I think we should be clear on that.

Obviously with my posts I'm more into general HBs, although a few might be considered UBs.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Bigfootman on October 12, 2008, 06:56:19 PM
BONES, CHANGE YOUR NAME BACK NOW!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on October 12, 2008, 06:57:17 PM
Change your name or BFMan will do this in all the topics and drive everyone crazy!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Bigfootman on October 12, 2008, 06:59:21 PM
THIS NOT JUST A THREAT ME AND JHR WILL KEEP POSTING TILL BONES CHANGES HIS NAME!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on October 12, 2008, 07:04:08 PM
CHANGE YOUR NAME! CHANGE YOUR NAME!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on January 09, 2009, 10:43:52 PM
In another thread we started to discuss the idea of adapting the book/story of Dead on Target into a movie.

As tomswift2002 mentioned, about 25% of the book would take place in England so it would be costly.

IMO, even if the U.K. is one of the most expensive places to shoot (it really is) that the authenticity of footage would be worth it. At least the outside shots - not just the landscape, but having the actors on the streets, etc. - should be filmed in England. If everything was efficiently organized, it could be done in a matter of days. Things don't exactly go as planned, of course, but if everyone and everything was prepared it could be accomplished.

However, technology is fantastic these days so using CGI and building sets could be decent enough. But I'm sure that outside shots in the actual location would be more desirable. And of course, everything else could be done in a studio or other places.

One slight reservation I have about Dead on Target is that although it would be a great movie, I'm not sure how it would work as a stand-alone. The book is pretty much the "start" of something so perhaps a trilogy would work (or at least a two-parter). Maybe even a very, very minor Iola subplot - it could be anything from Joe dealing with it and his new-found motivation, or even something like they aren't sure that she blew up and an underlying plot that finally resolves itself.

Or if it turns out to be a stand-alone movie, they should add or do something at the conclusion and/or add an epilogue that is satisfying.

Bottom line - they should definitely invest in something like this instead of The Hardy Men ::)

I just don't understand why they won't put something together because the books are popular. Perhaps they think adapting it television is better or something and since they've already been down that road, they're just leaving the door closed (besides The Hardy Men).
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on January 10, 2009, 01:11:06 AM
I think ''Dead on Target'', would also make a good pilot episode for a television episode as well.

While we're on the topic, what about an Operation Phoenix film trilogy?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on January 10, 2009, 04:58:46 AM
I like both of those ideas. But shamefully, I still haven't read the OP trilogy.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on January 10, 2009, 05:00:35 AM
You really should try to get a hold of the three books. It took me awhile, but it was well worth it.

So just curious, what do you know about the story of OP?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on January 10, 2009, 05:21:50 AM
Well, this could be totally wrong or maybe I'm spoiling something so just to be safe (spoilers ahead):

-Something about Fenton's death?
-Something about Frank and Joe really going the extra mile and having very strong motivation where they (for lack of a better term as it's sort of exaggerated) take no prisoners?
-Something about Africa?

So obviously not much. I actually haven't even read the plot overviews at all. I think I just caught some stuff here on the forum but I stay away (or try to stay away) from spoilers. I'm just taking people's word that it is some of the best HBs books (and I believe it).

I guess I'm thinking like a filmmaker again, but if that first point I said in the yellow font happens in the trilogy, then we'd have to make sure that that character is set up so the audience gets to know and care about them in the movie. Otherwise, the impact won't be as great. I don't know when that happens in the story, but I hope it isn't too early on or there isn't any proper build.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on January 10, 2009, 06:10:13 AM
Good idea, stay away from plot overviews. Sadly I knew a little too much about it, by the time I read it.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: tomswift2002 on January 10, 2009, 05:43:45 PM
Well, this could be totally wrong or maybe I'm spoiling something so just to be safe (spoilers ahead):

-Something about Fenton's death?
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I guess I'm thinking like a filmmaker again, but if that first point I said in the yellow font happens in the trilogy, then we'd have to make sure that that character is set up so the audience gets to know and care about them in the movie. Otherwise, the impact won't be as great. I don't know when that happens in the story, but I hope it isn't too early on or there isn't any proper build.

Fenton does indeed die in Operation Phoenix, Endangered Species.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Lola on January 10, 2009, 09:24:51 PM
Fenton does indeed die in Operation Phoenix, Endangered Species.
Actually no he didn't......Frank and Joe just thought he did!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on January 11, 2009, 02:49:06 AM
Spoilers Alert! Spoilers Alert!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Lola on January 11, 2009, 11:04:28 PM
LOL! Thanks Spencer :)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on January 12, 2009, 01:14:51 PM
No problem. What happened to your avatar, Lola?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on January 15, 2009, 09:29:46 PM
Actually, I got a new monitor so I can see the yellow very well. Now I have to be extra careful.

Oh well. I pretty much knew the plot would be like that anyways.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on May 01, 2009, 06:24:37 PM
#69 Because even the worst fanfiction is better than this idea.

It?s been a while. But I just remembered that this was around the time last year where lots of us would be on at once and keep posting and replying.

LOL @ what I put on page 9. Totally forgot about that.

But anyways, let me get this clear: those who are ?okay? with this movie don?t care that it?s making of fun and possibly trashing the Hardys?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on May 01, 2009, 06:27:09 PM
There probably won't even be a mystery or anything. More like a "What are they doing now?" sort of thing. ::)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on May 01, 2009, 06:33:41 PM
I still say it would be way better if they made them teens. :P Maybe I'll look up some people or something later...
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: mgriffith on May 06, 2009, 08:19:59 PM
I Googled the movie and read through articles on the film.  I doubt we'll see it before 2011, if at all (though I could be wrong - I never thought they'd pull off a new Trek film, either!).

I saw in one article that there was a Hardy Boys spoof on South Park.

Anyone catch that episode?  Was it any good, or painful for a Hardy Boy fan to watch?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on May 06, 2009, 08:46:32 PM
I didin't see it, but from what I've read about it, it would be down-right painful for a Hardy Boys fan to watch.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on May 06, 2009, 09:09:40 PM
I still say Cody Linley would make a good Joe:


(http://aew3796.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/cody-linley.jpg)
or maybe the guy who played Ned in the Nancy Drew movie..

I don't really know anyone for a Frank... Maybe:


(http://www.insidesocal.com/hollywoodjoe/.aaashia.jpg)
But he looks too old... Maybe:


(http://www.freewebs.com/joshhutcherson4u/JoshHutcherson.jpg)

But he looks pretty young even though he's 17..
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on May 07, 2009, 12:17:09 AM
I can't find a good ''Frank''. I think Alex Pettyfer would make a good Joe, though...if he could pull off the American accent.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: tomswift2002 on May 07, 2009, 10:06:31 AM
What if Wil Wheaton was cast as Frank Hardy (remember Wesley Crusher from Star Trek TNG)?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Bigfootman on May 07, 2009, 01:57:29 PM
I think the Hardy Men will be a great movie when its released.  It will be really interesting to see the Hardy Boys as adults and see how advancing the continuity of the Hardy Boys past their 20's would look and feel. 

Now then I do realize that there is the possibilty that Fox could hire the wrong writers or actors or crew, but considering how well Fox handled the X-Men movies I think Fox is a good studio for Simon & Schuster to be dealing with in terms of getting a Hardy Boys movie made.  Plus with it being delayed I hope that that means that the story is constantly being rewritten and upgraded to the point where it will have a really good plot that will be reminiscent of the original Hardy Boys books (and not the UB's).

Personly, I think it will suck (if it's ever made). Unlike the Nancy Drew move, this is likly to just be dumb jokes, and bad puns, and Tom Cruise and Ben Stiller are tough to imagene as the Hardy Boys. The only good thing that could happen is that the movie causes the UB's sales to go lower and the series ends.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on May 07, 2009, 02:58:36 PM
What if Wil Wheaton was cast as Frank Hardy (remember Wesley Crusher from Star Trek TNG)?

He'd be pretty good for the part but he's a bit old. Now, if your casting him for a Hardy Men film...
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on May 07, 2009, 11:33:49 PM
I still say Cody Linley would make a good Joe:


(http://aew3796.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/cody-linley.jpg)

I remember saying that Cody Linley might be able to pull it off. Especially since I saw him goof off once and Joe is the ?non-serious? one.

I can't find a good ''Frank''. I think Alex Pettyfer would make a good Joe, though...if he could pull off the American accent.

He?s a pretty good choice, too. I remember I had said that I might still see glimpses of "Alex Rider" if he were to be Joe, but this was back when I was fresh off the AR:OS movie. Obviously if he does a good job I won?t see it that way.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on May 08, 2009, 12:44:29 AM
Jeremy Sumpter would make a good Joe, too. Mind you I haven't seen him in anything but going on look alone...

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f167/2mc00chick7/jsumpter.jpg)

Maybe someone should start a topic on this?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: tomswift2002 on May 09, 2009, 01:13:26 PM
Is he a boy, or a girl?  That picture sort of makes Sumpter look like he might be a she.

Jeremy Sumpter would make a good Joe, too. Mind you I haven't seen him in anything but going on look alone...

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f167/2mc00chick7/jsumpter.jpg)

Maybe someone should start a topic on this?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on May 09, 2009, 02:46:30 PM
Is he a boy, or a girl?  That picture sort of makes Sumpter look like he might be a she.


Yeah. She's really pretty. ::)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on May 10, 2009, 06:47:05 PM
That?s not the first time tomswift2002 has confused genders *cough* Me *cough*

Actually, at first I was wondering how someone could think that guy was a girl, but all of a sudden I looked at it quickly (mostly the top half) and I could almost see it (something to do with the hair possibly being a short lady's cut). These were my reactions :o :D ??? :-\

SDL, I think Jeremy was my one choice from the links Dinosaur Dan posted. If this would have been discussed earlier (like last year), all I would think of is Peter Pan. But I think I?m past that, like the Alex Rider thing.

Anyways, if we start a new topic for this (where we could also re-post our choices) what should we call it? ?Casting Ideas for HBs??
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: FrankJoeATAC on May 10, 2009, 08:36:43 PM
That's a good idea, Olivia.

Also, I looked up 'Hardy Men' on Google, and it says its coming out in 2010. The website that I looked on also had a discussion board about the movies that were on the site, and the threads there had title like: "Destroying the Classics"   "Just what Tom Cruiuse needs"  "I can't wait"  stuff like that, so apparently it'll have mixed reviews...
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on May 10, 2009, 08:53:48 PM
Starting a new topic was in SDL's post - I was just replying :)

It's coming out? Yuuuuucccckkk. Are they actually filming? It that documented?

Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: 4567TME on February 06, 2010, 10:37:20 AM
Sometimes in stores or something, I see people and I think ' He would make a good Joe Hardy!' or something like that... :-\ ;)
You know? That kind of occurs to me, too!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Lola on February 20, 2010, 08:44:14 PM
IF The Hardy Men movie was going to be made I say pick real life brothers....Luke and Owen Wilson. One is dark haired, the other blonde!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on February 20, 2010, 10:49:55 PM
I like the Wilsons but someone younger would make more sense to me. I still think a true Hardy Boys movie should be made FIRST and then they could do one like Hardy Men. I don't think that our voices will be loud enough though. :(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on February 21, 2010, 01:46:06 AM
Well, there's only so many real life brother actors out there in Hollywood that I know of that would really work well. I was about to say the Ashmores for a second (Shawn and Aaron) and then I remembered they're twins. ;D
     I don't think it matters if they're really brothers or not. None of the actors portraying The Hardy Boys thus far have been real life brothers, but they've pulled it off well enough. I honestly like Tom Cruise and Ben Stiller in the roles- if they can do it right. (And if such a movie would generate interest to get some other DVDs released for The Hardy Boys- namely Season 3 of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries. I'd also love to see The Hardy Boys cartoon series and The Mystery of the Chinese Junk pilot from 1967 for that matter- but those might be a little less likely, unfortunately.)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on February 21, 2010, 11:09:00 PM
I'm not sure if it will really stimulate HB fandom and/or the lost seasons of HBs...but if that is what it takes to get season 3...then I will give in and not fight it anymore. There doesn't seem to be too much hope at the moment for it to be released otherwise.... :(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on February 22, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
Well, true- it's not really sure that this movie would generate any other merchandise releases for The Hardy Boys; but if it's what it takes to get things moving, then that's okay with me. However, if it doesn't get anything further released, then I really wouldn't be that interested in seeing it happen other than the connection to The Hardy Boys.
        Though I enjoyed the 2007 Nancy Drew movie well enough on its own, the other added benefit with that movie was getting the impetus to get the 1930s Nancy Drew movies on DVD (which are excellent, by the way :D) and getting Season 2 of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries released. But when it's a matter of 10 episodes for Season 3- surely someone could release this and finish this series up. But it always come down to financial matters and whether potential sales will warrant the investment...
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on February 23, 2010, 12:04:58 AM
I feel like Season 3 is the "lost episodes" because I am not old enough to have watched them on TV. I have never seen them (except for the first episode that is on youtube) and it's just not fair! They are depriving me of knowing what happens AND doing it without Nancy Drew (sorry I'm not a huge fan of hers). So powers that be...PLEASE release this with or without the Hardy Men movie (preferably without)!!!! :)

OK tantrum over. :)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on March 08, 2010, 10:38:58 AM
I hope this isn't what the movie will look like and/or be about.
(http://unfittoys.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/hardy-men.jpg)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on March 08, 2010, 10:39:46 AM
Of course, this might be a good description of fans' reactions to this version of a Hardy Boys movie. lol ;D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 08, 2010, 05:53:53 PM
LOL Quite funny. That should go in the "pop culture" thread too. I hope Frank doesn't go bald! :)

The look on their faces is how I feel about Hardy Men.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on March 15, 2010, 10:28:55 AM
Ran across this on SciFiWire. It's from last year, but does have a few scant pieces of information regarding the writer of the film's research and writing process. Not very promising honestly, but at least he does say he's read some of the books. That's always a plus.
http://scifiwire.com/2009/06/imagine-the-hardy-boys-as.php

One of the posters there had a pretty half-decent suggestion for an actual movie about The Hardy Boys. David Henrie (of Disney's "The Wizards of Waverly Place") and Joe Jonas (of Disney's "JONAS") as Frank and Joe. Of course, Joe Jonas would have to dye his hair, but I could honestly actually see that working.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 15, 2010, 07:07:53 PM
" these guys who are middle-aged men who are completely screwed up from having peaked in high school, basically, and have not evolved since then. They don't speak to each other anymore, live in different places, have disavowed their past, [and] have to come back in and sort of really deal with their own really complicated psyches."

To me this is already a huge turn OFF!!  ::)  :'(  :-\


One of the posters there had a pretty half-decent suggestion for an actual movie about The Hardy Boys. David Henrie (of Disney's "The Wizards of Waverly Place") and Joe Jonas (of Disney's "JONAS") as Frank and Joe. Of course, Joe Jonas would have to dye his hair, but I could honestly actually see that working.

I like both David Henrie and Joe Jonas but to me they both seem like Franks. It would have be one of them and someone else as Joe.

For those of you who do not know them...here's a looksie. :) David is up first.

When asked how he'd prepare for a role in Spider-Man should the opportunity present itself he [David] said, "Well I have been involved in martial arts for my whole life and I am very acrobatic, active, and athletic so I would continue to do a lot more of what I have been doing with mixed martial arts." (JUST LIKE A DARK HAIRED HARDY!) :)

(http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/david-henrie-2nd-annual-hot-in-hollywood-party-1FD54o.jpg)

(http://celebz4eva.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/joe-jonas-bcs-national-championship-party.jpg)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on March 15, 2010, 08:59:07 PM
I don't have high hopes for this movie, and the interview doesn't  make me feel any better about it (but it doesn't make me feel any worse about it, either).
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on March 15, 2010, 11:09:31 PM
I like the Jonas brothers just fine, (not in the sense that I listen to their music necessarily outside of hearing it on the Disney channel sometimes ;))- but I think I'd pick David Henrie over Joe Jonas. There are a few episodes of "The Wizards of Waverly Place" where he really reminds me of Frank Hardy. Just watch some of the episodes where he's fighting mummies or vampires and werewolves, etc. That could work. And hey- while we're doing a modern Disney version of The Hardy Boys, how about throwing in Dylan Sprouse as Joe Hardy? He seems to encompass some of Joe's traits on "The Suite Life of Zack and Cody" and "The Suite Life on Deck" (actually, I tend to think of Cody as Frank on the show and Zack as Joe anyway, so that could work well.)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 18, 2010, 05:53:55 PM
I like the Jonas brothers just fine, (not in the sense that I listen to their music necessarily outside of hearing it on the Disney channel sometimes ;))- but I think I'd pick David Henrie over Joe Jonas. There are a few episodes of "The Wizards of Waverly Place" where he really reminds me of Frank Hardy. Just watch some of the episodes where he's fighting mummies or vampires and werewolves, etc. That could work. And hey- while we're doing a modern Disney version of The Hardy Boys, how about throwing in Dylan Sprouse as Joe Hardy? He seems to encompass some of Joe's traits on "The Suite Life of Zack and Cody" and "The Suite Life on Deck" (actually, I tend to think of Cody as Frank on the show and Zack as Joe anyway, so that could work well.)

I agree!

Shameful confession time....

I actually started watched Wizards of Waverly Place BECAUSE David Henrie reminded me sooooo much of Frank!!   :P

I don't think Dylan Sprouse looks old enough but he's a much better possibility than others. I also think that Cody is more Frankish and Zack is more Joeish. Glad I'm not the only one!

Come to think of it...the Hardys have inspired MANY duos....or at least have a lot in common with them. Perhaps I will make this a new thread.

:)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on March 31, 2010, 01:11:42 PM
Just saw this article today from mania.com - interesting. It's their picks for detectives that need a reboot- and yes, they listed The Hardy Boys. Check out their picks for a movie version-
http://www.mania.com/10-movies-sleuths-need-sherlock-holmes-reboot_article_119576.html

Shia LaBeouf and Tobey Maguire? Not sure I'm seeing that one... Though if that were to be the cast, I suppose Shia would take on the role of Joe with Tobey as Frank- but that would be better fitting for "The Hardy Men" concept than a true movie for "The Hardy Boys".
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 31, 2010, 01:57:29 PM
Nice find MacGyver!

But I do not agree with this article! Well...I do think it was a good idea to make them less racist and crude (gasp! at the thought of them staying that way!). Other than that though...NO.

"Why It Needs a Reboot: The Hardy Boys need to grow up. Get them interested in girls and piss them off a bit, and it could get interesting. They should still be young to stay true to their characters, but make them flawed and full of angst. That would speak to a new generation of kids frustrated with the status quo."

What?! If this is how they would reboot it, I don't want any part of it!! The sad thing is if they do make a movie...no matter how opposed to it I will be....I will probably end up seeing it somehow just out of sheer curiosity. Grr.

And I don't think Shia and Tobey would make a good brother combination. Transformers plus Spiderman? Nah...I don't see it. They are good actors but I don't think it would work.

Why can they never get this right???! And if they continue to fail at it, I hope they just leave the Hardys ALONE.

Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on March 31, 2010, 03:55:11 PM
His reboot suggestion sounds sort of like the Casefiles, actually.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on March 31, 2010, 06:46:23 PM
Quote
Nice find MacGyver!
Thanks. :)
I haven't read enough of the Original Text books yet to know for sure, but I've never seen the Hardy Boys as racist or crude. But it will be interesting to read more of the OT books and see how Frank and Joe were characterized then. And the Hardy Boys are mentioned as being interested in girls (Joe with Iola and Frank with Callie of course) from the very first book in the OT. Though the Hardys are presented as highly moral and virtuous (which is definitely good)- they certainly aren't perfect and have their flaws. Joe's main struggle is usually his impetousness and anger and Frank seems to sometimes maybe come off as prideful and of course, he gets angry sometimes too.  (Which of course, anger by itself is not necessarily bad- but it can lead to bad deeds of course.) I don't know that The Hardy Boys need to be full of angst though- I really get tired of that cliche of every teenager coming off like Holden Caulfield who can't deal with growing up and lashes out at against the status quo and is frustrated at the world. The Casefiles does implement some of these things- but I don't think I would consider the characterizations of Frank and Joe as angsty, really.
        And yeah- still need better actor choices for Frank and Joe as the teenage Hardy Boys at ages 18 and 17 respectively.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on March 31, 2010, 07:16:45 PM
I wouldn't say that the Hardys from the 20s, 30s, and 40s were "racist and crude", but they weren't the perfect boy scouts they turned into in the 50s, either.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: tomswift2002 on March 31, 2010, 07:23:28 PM
His reboot suggestion sounds sort of like the Casefiles, actually.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  The Casefiles mixed with the 22 and 20 year old Hardy Boys from the 1995 TV series.  Maybe have one of them married or engaged, just starting life...

But with Dick Tracy on that list, I thought the 1990's movie was pretty good and it was a favorite of mine when I was a child (even though I didn't see it till about 1993).  But I've read that since 2005 the film and television rights to Dick Tracy have been held up in court, since Warren Beatty claims that he still owns the film and television rights, while Tribune Media wants to get them back so that they can put a show, similar to Smallville on the air, and Tribune claims that they've gone about the correct procedure, as outlined in Warren Beatty's 1985 purchase agreement, to cancelling his ownership of the rights.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Tracy_(1990_film)#Sequel) (http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2009/03/21/beatty-tribune-tracy.html)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on March 31, 2010, 07:33:35 PM
Other then The Hardy Boys, the movie I'd most want to see is Phillip Marlow. Not that I'd mind Scarlett Johansson as Miss Marple...
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on March 31, 2010, 10:19:42 PM
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Not that I'd mind Scarlett Johansson as Miss Marple...
Talk about a reboot. lol ;D (That'd be jumping the character back just a few years there, I would think. ;))
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on March 31, 2010, 10:56:54 PM
Actually, I think it's kind of a stupid idea but I wouldn't complain. Being old is a big part of what makes the character unique, though, so it doesn't really make sense. If you want to see her as a detective, Nancy Drew would work better.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on April 02, 2010, 10:43:52 PM
His reboot suggestion sounds sort of like the Casefiles, actually.

Now that I reread that I can understand why you think so. However, the people who wrote this article could have taken that into account and realized that there was a series that already explored some of those ideas. I don't think it covers all of them, like MacGvyer said. I guess when I read that I pictured what TODAY'S writers and producers would make that look, sound, and be like. Basing it on what they would do (or what I think they would do) given that description....it scared me to think of it. 10 years ago it might have looked more like the Casefiles does but in 2010...I'm not so sure. I don't want to see an emo Frank or a cracked out Joe or something like that. OR a musical or some kind of vampire twist. lol

Frank and Joe are classics and timeless...I don't want them to be ruined by a fad or one of today's trends that will last for a short time and then be "so five years ago". :D

OK I realize that a fad and a trend are well...rather quite similar. Oh well! :P
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Lola on April 23, 2010, 10:47:10 AM
The following link was sent to me in an email. A nice article about the orginial show. There is also a mention about the Hardy Men movie and all I have to say is.......THANK YOU MS. ANNE LOCKHART!!!!! ;D

http://www.denofgeek.com/television/468349/the_hardy_boysnancy_drew_mysteries.html
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on April 26, 2010, 06:55:38 PM
The following link was sent to me in an email. A nice article about the orginial show. There is also a mention about the Hardy Men movie and all I have to say is.......THANK YOU MS. ANNE LOCKHART!!!!! ;D

http://www.denofgeek.com/television/468349/the_hardy_boysnancy_drew_mysteries.html

Nice. I'll definitely check it out :)

I like both David Henrie and Joe Jonas but to me they both seem like Franks. It would have be one of them and someone else as Joe.

For those of you who do not know them...here's a looksie. :) David is up first.

When asked how he'd prepare for a role in Spider-Man should the opportunity present itself he [David] said, "Well I have been involved in martial arts for my whole life and I am very acrobatic, active, and athletic so I would continue to do a lot more of what I have been doing with mixed martial arts." (JUST LIKE A DARK HAIRED HARDY!) :)

(http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/david-henrie-2nd-annual-hot-in-hollywood-party-1FD54o.jpg)

He definitely has the acting ability! I think he's one of the few from Disney who could hold their own beyond that channel. I mean, there's actors who are just good enough in certain roles, and then there are others who truly have talent for bigger things.

So, yes, I really think he could embody Frank Hardy.

(This is someone who is 100% against The Hardy Men, and has really high standards for casting ;)).
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on May 04, 2010, 07:22:13 PM
I'm really loving Chris Zylka as Joe. I don't know how good he would be with David Henrie (who I do like too) but....here's a pic. This is not the best pic but everytime I watch 10 Things I Hate About You, the tv series, I am looking at him as Joe Hardy! And he's YUMMY too. :)

(http://www.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/movies/m/my_super_psycho_sweet_16/cast/chris_zylka/281x211.jpg)


Ok here's an article I found....Won't this movie just die??????????????? UGH!

I don't exactly understand this article because it barely makes sense. See it here.. http://blog.80millionmoviesfree.com/trailer/the-hardy-men-2012-men-grown-up

This next article is about Tom Cruise's project line up....it's a little old but scroll to the bottom for the mention of Hardy Men. http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/05/27/what-movie-will-tom-cruise-do-next/

Youtube video about upcoming movies and/or talks of new movies. Hardy Men is mentioned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8IMnHPN66Y (very brief and nothing new)


Let's hope that Tom and Ben are SOOOO busy, they never get around to making this film!

I leave you with this....

(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/04/18/Tom-Cruise-South-parkweb.jpg)

found with an article-ish here http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/04/18/Tom-Cruise-South-parkweb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/04/&usg=__0w7PTwPjaKRa6LZdslDBL9HLr9s=&h=347&w=450&sz=27&hl=en&start=9&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=qSqQZI2TR8PyHM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dthe%2Bhardy%2Bmen%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26tbs%3Disch:1
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on May 04, 2010, 11:26:58 PM
According to this article at IMDB.com, it looks like Simon Kinberg is the next screenwriter to try rewriting the script. And it seems The Hardy Men is possibly set for 2012. We'll see.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0963174/news#ni2096078
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on May 04, 2010, 11:32:25 PM
and here's how much stock people put in the movie- ;)
http://www.hsx.com/security/view/HARDY
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on May 27, 2010, 06:17:48 PM
I was thinking again about this proposed idea and I have an idea on casting. If Ben Stiller and Tom Cruise are really set on being Frank and Joe Hardy in this movie as grown men, (and if they do it right, I'd really be okay with it and even looking forward to it to some degree. Sure, I'd like to see an actual movie for The Hardy Boys as we know them in the original/Casefiles continuity, but since it doesn't look like that's happening any time soon, I wouldn't mind seeing The Hardy Men in the meantime- if it's done with the right amount of respect to The Hardy Boys books and kept clean.)  But it would be awesome if they could get Tommy Kirk and Tim Considine to have cameos in the movie in some capacity- a retired Chief Ezra Collig and Detective Oscar Smuff perhaps? I don't know- but it'd be nice to have them involved somehow. My other thought was that I might like "The Hardy Men" concept even better if they actually got the TV stars to reunite and make such a movie! (Though I would have to say that Colin Grey and Paul Popwich just wouldn't be as well known or remembered to be doing it. Though I wouldn't mind seeing them involved either.) But it might be funny to see Parker Stevenson and Shaun Cassidy back as Frank and Joe Hardy! They should at least get a cameo somehow.  But I think it could work even better if Ben Stiller and Tom Cruise were there as a competitor set of brother detectives to Parker and Shaun's older Frank and Joe. That way you could still have Ben and Tom doing their thing of being the goofy grown men who have to deal with differences and come back together to solve a mystery- and have them competing against The Hardy Boys (now men.) That would to me be pretty funny and make more sense- because then The Hardy Boys' reputation would still be intact and they would be the ones that would, bemusingly, step forward and help Ben and Tom come together and instill in them the ways of the Jedi... I mean- real detective skills.
That could make for a funny action/adventure movie. :D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: tomswift2002 on May 29, 2010, 10:40:33 AM
But one thing standing in the way to that would be copyrights.  Considering that The Hardy Men is being done by Fox, then they would have to clear the copyrights surrounding the use of the universe of the 1977 The Hardy Boys Nancy Drew Mysteries which was produced and is still owned by Universal Studios.  (Simon & Schuster owns the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew trademark, however, Universal still owns the original film negatives and audio tapes from the series, just like Sony owns the 1943 and 1949 Batman serials even though DC Comics/Time Warner now own the Batman copyright/trademark.)

So if it was Universal making this movie then I wouldn't say that that was a far-fethed idea, but considering that The Hardy Men is being produced by Fox, its not very likely.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on May 30, 2010, 11:30:43 PM
and here's how much stock people put in the movie- ;)
http://www.hsx.com/security/view/HARDY


Um I don't get why there would even be stock in a nonexistent movie???


Also, I agree that cameos are definitely needed here. I realize that it might not be possible but it would be nice. A lot of past characters come back to a show as a cameo. It was please the actual fans, I'm sure. However, if they are trying to "reinvent" the Hardys by making them older....they might skip on that. Or it won't happen because of the copyright issue tomswift was pointing out.

Either way, I am still not excited about this movie concept. Cute teenage boys as true Hardys (probably more Casefile-ish) would make the most sense, create a new fanbase, and please the current fans more. IMO.....
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: rouge7617 on June 08, 2010, 12:47:55 PM
I agree with FrankJoeATAC. I think it would be better by a lot if they used teenage Frank and Joe instead of adults! >:(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on June 09, 2010, 01:07:20 AM
I agree with FrankJoeATAC. I think it would be better by a lot if they used teenage Frank and Joe instead of adults! >:(

You don't just agree with FrankJoeATAC. You agree with about 50% of the forum.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 09, 2010, 01:16:10 AM
lol SDLagent. :)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 10, 2010, 12:04:53 AM
Is this good or bad news for us??? Will this halt any work on Hardy Men or propel it into actually happening??

Tom Cruise is set to reprise his character from Tropic Thunder. I've heard that Ben Stiller is also to star (possibly) in this movie. Would there be 2 Tom and Ben movies (besides the one that is already out)?

http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2010/06/09/paramount-confirms-untitled-les-grossman-project-in-the-works/
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Jokerette on June 21, 2010, 08:46:22 AM
if the movies are popular, they may get more viewers. which may in turn mean that they make another imbecilic hardy men movie  >:(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Bigfootman on June 21, 2010, 12:29:23 PM
Is this good or bad news for us??? Will this halt any work on Hardy Men or propel it into actually happening??

Tom Cruise is set to reprise his character from Tropic Thunder. I've heard that Ben Stiller is also to star (possibly) in this movie. Would there be 2 Tom and Ben movies (besides the one that is already out)?

http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2010/06/09/paramount-confirms-untitled-les-grossman-project-in-the-works/
Madgascar 3 will also halt work on the movie, as it's coming out in 2012.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Jokerette on June 22, 2010, 03:06:35 PM
Madgascar 3 will also halt work on the movie, as it's coming out in 2012.

what! there is a third one! i hope they aren't gonna over do it with sequels
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on June 22, 2010, 04:14:45 PM
They already did.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on June 22, 2010, 11:19:56 PM
I know this thread isn't about Madagascar but I loved the second one. I'm not surprised they are coming out with a 3rd. The Penguins of Madagascar is an amazing cartoon! :)

As for Hardy Men, I say keep Ben Stiller busy with other things!!! Maybe he will have to back out of Hardy Men. Oh what a shame that would be...  ::)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Jokerette on June 23, 2010, 08:18:05 AM
As for Hardy Men, I say keep Ben Stiller busy with other things!!! Maybe he will have to back out of Hardy Men. Oh what a shame that would be...  ::)

yeah... a real shame  ;)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: HardyFan11 on October 05, 2010, 05:57:58 PM
Nice find MacGyver!

But I do not agree with this article! Well...I do think it was a good idea to make them less racist and crude (gasp! at the thought of them staying that way!). Other than that though...NO.

"Why It Needs a Reboot: The Hardy Boys need to grow up. Get them interested in girls and piss them off a bit, and it could get interesting. They should still be young to stay true to their characters, but make them flawed and full of angst. That would speak to a new generation of kids frustrated with the status quo."

What?! If this is how they would reboot it, I don't want any part of it!! The sad thing is if they do make a movie...no matter how opposed to it I will be....I will probably end up seeing it somehow just out of sheer curiosity. Grr.

And I don't think Shia and Tobey would make a good brother combination. Transformers plus Spiderman? Nah...I don't see it. They are good actors but I don't think it would work.

Why can they never get this right???! And if they continue to fail at it, I hope they just leave the Hardys ALONE.

I agree with your statements. And I definitely don't like that article. Not all kids like that kind of stuff, some like the Hardys the way they are now!!!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on October 06, 2010, 01:59:21 AM
I agree with your statements. And I definitely don't like that article. Not all kids like that kind of stuff, some like the Hardys the way they are now!!!

And a lot of kids like the Casefiles which is close to what the article describes.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Q on October 06, 2010, 06:22:08 AM
I didn't really see any flaws in Frank and Joe's characters in the Casefiles.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 06, 2010, 12:47:28 PM
I would be fine with The Hardy Boys staying in the Casefiles continuity for a movie. I don't have any real issues with their characters here either. (I note that they don't use curse words in this series, unlike the UnderCover Brothers, for one. There are maybe one or two times when one of the books notes that either Frank or Joe swore- but it never has any words actually written out.) I think I would be fine with the Casefiles- certainly over the UB portrayals- but not just for that reason. The whole  model of ATAC and so forth gets kinda tiresome after awhile- though I'm sure it goes over really well with most kids today because what young boy doesn't want to be part of a super cool secret agency that fights for the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless- in a world of criminals who operate above the law.... because, rest assured- one man can make a difference. (especially if he has a talking 1982 black Trans Am 8))
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on October 06, 2010, 04:01:06 PM
I didn't really see any flaws in Frank and Joe's characters in the Casefiles.

Good point but I was thinking more of the "interested in girls and piss them off a bit" part.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 06, 2010, 06:33:04 PM
What I don't get is why the powers that be DON'T try to do what the fans would love to see. They really could have "the next big thing" if they put their brains together and made a great show or movie. Instead...they BARELY release the books. New books can't even be found by me. So everything has to be bought online. If I was a 12 yr old, I wouldn't be able to walk into the book store and pick up the newest HB. That's horrible to me.

Then you have the possibilities of creating a kick ass cartoon or even better, a live action half hour or hour tv show. Mix some Casefiles with maybe a little of the old and new...and BAM...you have one AWESOME script. Okay, the actors would be a very important thing too...but still, the makings of a multi-million or so franchise is right there.

It would rejuvenate the Hardys for a whole new generation! How awesome would that be?? I am SO hoping that this happens with the new tv show that's being proposed.

However, if like the Hardy Men, the powers that be decide to DESTROY all that is good and Hardy....then I don't want any of it. Keep it real or don't do it.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 06, 2010, 10:20:46 PM
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However, if like the Hardy Men, the powers that be decide to DESTROY all that is good and Hardy....then I don't want any of it. Keep it real or don't do it.
It's a sad sign that I've seen way too much of the Disney Channel when this line brings to mind a line from a song by the Jonas Brothers- "Who's to say we won't be keeping it real?" (LOL- I can hear the tune and everything. Ha ha- that's funny and sad at the same time. Ah well- I don't care. I don't really listen to them, but I hear them when they show a music video on Disney from time to time. Of course, I just tend to get lots of random stuff like that stuck in my head that pops out whenever...) ;D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on October 07, 2010, 01:34:30 AM
What I don't get is why the powers that be DON'T try to do what the fans would love to see. They really could have "the next big thing" if they put their brains together and made a great show or movie. Instead...they BARELY release the books. New books can't even be found by me. So everything has to be bought online. If I was a 12 yr old, I wouldn't be able to walk into the book store and pick up the newest HB. That's horrible to me.

Then you have the possibilities of creating a kick ass cartoon or even better, a live action half hour or hour tv show. Mix some Casefiles with maybe a little of the old and new...and BAM...you have one AWESOME script. Okay, the actors would be a very important thing too...but still, the makings of a multi-million or so franchise is right there.

It would rejuvenate the Hardys for a whole new generation! How awesome would that be?? I am SO hoping that this happens with the new tv show that's being proposed.

However, if like the Hardy Men, the powers that be decide to DESTROY all that is good and Hardy....then I don't want any of it. Keep it real or don't do it.

Yeah, hopefully the new TV series renews interest in The Hardy Boys franchise.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 07, 2010, 01:24:28 PM
MacGyver,

Um...thanks...now I have that song stuck in my head!! lol :P

*crosses fingers that the new show will be one to be proud of*
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 07, 2010, 01:54:32 PM
Ha ha- no problem. ;D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 09, 2010, 12:46:24 AM
Just for you MacGyver...

This is the song that never ends....it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was but they"ll continue singing it forever just because this is the song that never ends. It goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was but they'll continue singing it forever just because....

From Lambchop...bringing it back old school. lol And it DOES get stuck in your head. Ah darn...that backfired. :P
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 10, 2010, 11:08:02 PM
Hahaha! I'm quite familiar with this song! Love it! Lambchop and Shari Lewis rule! Used to watch this a good bit when I was younger- I've actually still got a Lambchop LP from childhood too. ;D
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on October 15, 2010, 04:41:43 PM
Ah, the never-ending song.

Anyways, I echo was most of you are saying. This is just a bad idea on so many levels. Why don't they just make the stupid parody and have it flop, so it can be over with.

Oh, but then it'll give the Hardys a bad name. Feels like we can't win >:(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Mattie on October 15, 2010, 06:47:57 PM
i think it might be a good movie but it wont really follow the books :(
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on October 15, 2010, 07:43:02 PM
I seriously think it will be a mockery. I know I shouldn't be so pessimistic, and normally I give things more of a chance, but everything I've heard so far doesn't seem good...at all.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 16, 2010, 04:19:49 PM
Glad you liked it MacGyver!! LOL

And the Hardy Men IS a mockery. I know we should be more positive because it is Frank and Joe. I think they would do a lot better having two teenagers or at least college kids be Frank and Joe...BEFORE making them older. Sure, there are people out there who "used" to read HB or ND...and this might be nostalgic for them....but it will just be a parody.

"Per Variety, The Hardy Men  will feature the siblings, once inseparable but now estranged, reuniting to solve one last case. No word on whether they'll still go by Frank and Joe or if the screenplay will call for more modern monikers."

HOW CAN YOU HAVE A MOVIE ABOUT THE HARDY BOYS BUT NOT CALL THEM FRANK AND JOE?????

Sorry for the yelling. Find the rest of the 2007 article here...


http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b54393_Cruise_and_Stiller_Hardy_Men.html (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b54393_Cruise_and_Stiller_Hardy_Men.html)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 17, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
Maybe Franklin and Joseph sounds more grown-upy. ;)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 18, 2010, 01:56:29 PM
I could understand Joseph...but NOT Franklin! His full name is NOT Franklin!! Or Francis for that matter!! Sorry...it's a pet peeve. AND if they wanted more modern names...I don't think Franklin would be included in that. With our luck, they will be named Tom and Ben Hardy!  ::)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on October 18, 2010, 01:56:46 PM
Hmmm... "estranged" is NOT the first word that comes to mind when I think of Frank and Joe..... :( They're probably gonna have pot-bellies and beards.... EW..... and mustaches   :P..... Oh, and WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU CALL THEM!?!??!?! The Hardy Boys have always ALWAYS ALWAYS  ALWAYS been FRANK and JOE!!!! Joseph and Franklin sound like 60-year-old man names :P
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 18, 2010, 03:11:11 PM
While I realize that "Frank" is a full name in itself and need not be an abbreviation, it's still a common shortened form of Franklin and given that the author of The Hardy Boys books is Franklin W. Dixon- it seems like it would be a logical choice. I think I would like it better than Francis in any case.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on October 18, 2010, 04:01:13 PM
Hmmm... "estranged" is NOT the first word that comes to mind when I think of Frank and Joe..... :( They're probably gonna have pot-bellies and beards.... EW..... and mustaches   :P..... Oh, and WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU CALL THEM!?!??!?! The Hardy Boys have always ALWAYS ALWAYS  ALWAYS been FRANK and JOE!!!! Joseph and Franklin sound like 60-year-old man names :P

Actually, there's probably more old men called Frank than Franklin.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on October 18, 2010, 10:20:29 PM
"Franklin" by itself reminds me of Franklin the turtle.

"Joseph" conjures up images of the Bible, as has been said by someone before.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 19, 2010, 01:53:06 AM
The name debate could go on and on....However, I think the most important part is that you CANNOT have a Hardy Boys movie (even if they are older) without calling them Frank and Joe. That's what they are in the books...that is what they should be in the movie. It's ridiculous to think anything else! I don't know how accurate or current that info is but it certainly leads to me to believe they are going to royally mess this movie up. I agree with JoeHardyRocks in that the boys shouldn't be estranged either. Why does that have to be a progression of their relationship? Married with kids and moved somewhere else? Sure...that's realistic. But estranged and FORCED to work together???? Yeah, I don't think so.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 19, 2010, 08:53:15 AM
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"Franklin" by itself reminds me of Franklin the turtle.

"Joseph" conjures up images of the Bible, as has been said by someone before.
Franklin the turtle- ha ha, yes- that is true. ;D

And the most famous Joseph I know is definitely the one in The Bible that you can read about in Genesis 37-50.
And he was kinda impulsive too to some degree- considering he was sharing his dream about the sun, moon and 11 stars bowing down to him and the bundles of wheat bowing to his with his family...
I don't know if there was any consideration toward that in the naming of Joe. (I know we've speculated some on this in another thread too.) And of course, there's also Joseph, the husband of Mary, mother of Jesus.

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I don't know how accurate or current that info is but it certainly leads to me to believe they are going to royally mess this movie up. I agree with JoeHardyRocks in that the boys shouldn't be estranged either. Why does that have to be a progression of their relationship? Married with kids and moved somewhere else? Sure...that's realistic. But estranged and FORCED to work together? Yeah, I don't think so.

Well, the whole plan was to be a comedic take on The Hardy Boys to begin with, so that's just it. The producers of this proposed movie are not taking the books seriously at all, but just making a parody at best and that's why they've decided to age the perpetual teenagers into grown men. The comedy part comes with Frank and Joe being estranged and having to work through their differences to solve one more case together. I can see the comedic possibilities, but I also don't think it's really necessary and will more than likely be a besmirchment to The Hardy Boys' good name than anything else. I honestly like Tom Cruise and Ben Stiller well enough in some movies and if they could keep it clean I could probably be okay with this- but I'd still much rather see an actual serious movie for The Hardy Boys first.

 
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 22, 2010, 04:40:40 PM
You say it so nicely MacGyver. :) I don't buy Tom and Ben as older Hardys or Hardys at all. They are good in their own ways and in other things that they have been in. I just don't think they fit the part. I also don't like the parody element. Making a funny Hardy Boys story with nods or at least elements of the books...YES...please! Unfortunately, like you said, it's going to turn into just besmirching their good name. I would love to see a real HB movie first. Not holding my breath though.

One article I found said 2013....I hope that's either true or doesn't end up happening. I heard Tom might be a part of Top Gun 2 and MI 4...So let's hope that keeps him REALLY busy. He's no Joe.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 25, 2010, 05:58:48 PM
Really? I could honestly see Tom Cruise as Joe- he definitely has the brash, impulsive, women-charmer part down. (Just see "Top Gun" and "A Few Good Men" for confirmation. There's others, but those are two of his top classics.)
Of course, had this movie been made back in the '80s when he would've been more in the right age range, that might've helped.
And I'm quite excited for Mission: Impossible IV - I didn't really like what they did in the first movie (making Jim Phelps a traitor after like 40 something years of service to the IMF and killing off the team and making the set-up more analogous to a James Bond thing than say, Mission: Impossible) - But once I got past that, I can really enjoy the movies for their own thing. And the third movie was incredible! If they can make another movie of that caliber, I will be happy to see that one.
Top Gun 2 kind of came out of nowhere- one of those movies that pretty much no one was really clamoring for. I love the classic 1986 Top Gun movie- but I don't really think a sequel is needed. However, if Tom Cruise actually shows back up as Maverick, I'll probably give it a chance. Of course, it's probably just because Tom Cruise is still one of my favorite '80s actors. Yes, he has some Scientology beliefs I don't share. Yes, he's said and done some weird and quite possibly stupid things- but hey, who hasn't? I know I have. I personally think it's awesome that he's so in love with Katie Holmes that he was jumping up and down on Oprah's couch to show some enthusiasm. Every marriage should have that level of anticipation and excitement and love. So not that I defend everything he's done or even like everything he's done- but I do like him as an actor. He's one of the three Toms that I really enjoy watching his acting in the 1980s (of course, those three being Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks and Tom Selleck. :D Just see "Top Gun", "Big", and "Three Men and a Baby" to know why. And "Magnum, P.I." of course.) 8)
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You say it so nicely MacGyver.
Thanks. You do pretty well yourself. 8)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: Olivia on October 25, 2010, 06:13:42 PM
And of course, there's also Joseph, the husband of Mary, mother of Jesus.

I always forget about that Joseph for some reason lol.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 25, 2010, 06:20:10 PM
Well, he didn't get an Andrew Lloyd Webber/Tim Rice musical starring Donny Osmond named after him- so maybe he's not as well known.
But he should be as he certainly plays a crucial part in the Nativity of Jesus Christ. I'm really glad for "The Nativity Story" movie- they did a great job of portraying the Biblical events there. (Even if the Wise Men didn't get to Jesus' manger that first Christmas- and it probably wasn't until about 2 years later. I can understand why the moviemakers put that scene the way it is since it flowed so well with everything else going on- and it completes the major events surrounding the birth of Jesus. So I forgive them for that slip in accuracy.) :)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 26, 2010, 01:48:20 AM
No need to defend Tom. I LOVED him in some of his more classic roles (where he is more Joe-like). Yes, he does have views I don't agree with and says some absurd things. Let me put it this way....If I had to imagine my perfect Frank and Joe...they would not grow up to look like or be Tom and Ben. For one, both of them are not even tall enough. That just irritates me for some odd reason. So, it's not really Tom himself. Although, like you said, a younger Tom Cruise would be better. I agree with that. Man, he had some GREAT movies back when...but I just don't see it for now. I see that they were thinking Tom and Ben were a good duo. I agree with that as well. I just don't see my teenage Frank and Joe growing up to look like them, etc.

Hey, speaking of Hardy Men....what about the Hardy women? Would Frank and Joe be married to Callie and Vanessa or would Iola be alive? Will they married or divorced to original characters? Will their kids be just like them?

 Their parents would either be quite old or passed away. Aunt Gertrude was much older and probably wouldn't be in the picture. Going further, would their good ol' chums return for this movie?? Chet, Biff, Tony, Phil...just to name a few.

Oh and how old is Con and Chief Collig going to be??

I would hate to see some key characters lose their roles in the Hardy Boys because of this movie....

Thanks. You do pretty well yourself. 8)

Thanks! I try....I need to stop coming on here so late though. It's almost 2am...and my brain starts to get mushy. lol I appreciate that though!
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 26, 2010, 02:34:55 PM
And then there's long lost and forgotten characters like Jerry Gilroy, Jack Wayne and Sam Radley! Oh, and Oscar Smuff just for comic relief. ;D
Interestingly enough, none of the previous Hardy Boys incarnations that I know of have presented The Hardy Boys' traditional romantic relationships with Iola and Callie. Sure, Iola showed up in the '50s Disney serials, but they were all just kids there so I don't think Joe was really shown pairing up with Iola so much- I don't think they were quite even at the age of puberty there.
And I'm not sure that either one showed up in the '60s cartoon or "The Mystery of the Chinese Junk" pilot. I don't know if Frank or Joe had any kind of relationship going on with Wanda Kay on the cartoon though- but I'd have to watch more of it to know.
And on the '70s show, Iola never showed up though Callie was there for the first season and Chet showed up twice. But again- Callie was an assistant to Mr. Hardy and wasn't really shown having a relationship with Frank (or Joe, for that matter.) If anything, a romantic relationship between Frank Hardy and Nancy Drew was definitely strongly hinted at- although it didn't really overshadow the overall tone of the show. (And it seemed fairly muted for the most part with Janet Louise Johnson's episodes, I think- except for "Arson and Old Lace", of course.) Also, Joe Hardy and Bess Marvin seemed to have a slight hint at a relationship as well (though I think it may have been more of a just budding thing for them- mainly in the "The Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew Meet Dracula" two-part episode.)
In the '90s show, Frank seemed to maybe have a thing going with his boss at the newspaper- but again, this series had no mention of Callie or Iola although Chet did show up once. I can't remember if he might have mentioned his sister or not.

So anyway- it'd be nice for a movie version to have these different characters show up and I would prefer that they go with the traditional deal of Frank and Callie and Joe and Iola being couples.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on October 26, 2010, 10:44:11 PM
Again, well put MacGyver. Can I just call you Mac?? lol

Now that you mention it...a lot of those characters are absent in the screen adaptations of the Hardy Boys. Actually, they are somewhat absent in the graphic novels as well. Come to think of it...the first UBs, Wanted, mentions Belinda Conrad. She is somewhat linked to Frank.

I wonder why this is??? Why not keep the original characters? I really don't see the need to invent new love interests, etc. With the Hardy Men, I can see where they would make it look like they all went there own ways. Heck, if Frank and Joe are no longer on good terms, it stands to reason that Chet, Phil, Tony, Biff, Jerry, etc...would have dispersed as well.

It would be better and make more sense if they at least attempted to keep the OC and the main themes, values, etc of the books.

Perhaps Nelvana will try this with the new series they are proposing?
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 26, 2010, 11:30:57 PM
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Again, well put MacGyver. Can I just call you Mac?? lol
Again, thanks. And yeah- whichever's fine. lol

And I definitely hope Nelvana will be true to the original continuity from the first 58 books. I would much rather see that than what I kinda think it might wind up being. And much as I love the Casefiles, I just kinda doubt they would use that continuity because it's not a current series anymore. If the UnderCover Brothers series is the current series and this is what their main target audience knows, I feel fairly certain that's the continuity they will use. It's still the Hardy Boys, but maybe not the one most of the older fans typically think of first. But then, I don't think the show is necessarily aimed at them. I know this is just conjecture on my part, but I just have a feeling that's what it will be, unless they go off and create either a hybrid type deal or just their own continuity altogether.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: SDLagent on October 28, 2010, 03:16:07 AM
Again, thanks. And yeah- whichever's fine. lol

And I definitely hope Nelvana will be true to the original continuity from the first 58 books. I would much rather see that than what I kinda think it might wind up being. And much as I love the Casefiles, I just kinda doubt they would use that continuity because it's not a current series anymore. If the UnderCover Brothers series is the current series and this is what their main target audience knows, I feel fairly certain that's the continuity they will use. It's still the Hardy Boys, but maybe not the one most of the older fans typically think of first. But then, I don't think the show is necessarily aimed at them. I know this is just conjecture on my part, but I just have a feeling that's what it will be, unless they go off and create either a hybrid type deal or just their own continuity altogether.

Not necessarily. The 95 series wasn't much like the Casefiles. And the 77 series wasn't even that much like the Original series, although some episodes were loose adoptions of the books.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 28, 2010, 05:36:12 PM
Right. The previous TV versions have been based on the books, but not necessarily adaptations. Maybe it will just be its own thing like the '70s and '90s series. I just wonder if the UB continuity will come into play in the series. (i.e. Frank and Joe are working for ATAC, rather than just helping their father with cases or stumbling onto mysteries on their own, etc.)
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: MacGyver on October 29, 2010, 08:21:45 AM
Just ran across this online from a link on the IMDB page for The Hardy Men- and yes, it is still listed on there for a 2013 release, with Shawn Levy directing and Simon Kingberg and Ed Solomon writing. And of course, Tom Cruise and Ben Stiller are still listed as starred in the titular roles, but not further information beyond that. By the way, just out of curiosity, though I know most people on here are not wanting to see this happen, if it did and you were forced to choose from these actors, who do you think would get cast as whom? I would think it would be Tom Cruise as Joe and Ben Stiller as Frank. That just seems to be the natural casting to me from those two choices (I guess because I can see Ben Stiller doing that sort of role for Frank stemming from his portrayal of Dave Starsky in the Starsky & Hutch movie- which is not really a recommendation for this movie. I've seen bits of it on TV before- I don't know if it was altogether horrible, but I would definitely recommend the actual TV series over this movie anytime.) And then I actually can see Tom Cruise as an older Joe Hardy, especially considering his roles in movies like Top Gun (which is now supposedly getting a sequel sometime in 2013!), Rain Man and A Few Good Men and of course the Mission: Impossible movies. (which is also getting another movie- and if the 4th. is as awesome as the 3rd. one was- that will be exciting! I'm sure I will wind up seeing it either way.)
           Anyway- here is the link I mentioned earlier. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1237838/
This seems like what The Hardy Men could end up being. It also seems to be a very much tongue-in-cheek take on a grown up Encyclopedia Brown. I haven't seen the movie and wouldn't care to just from reading the description- but I hope if The Hardy Men is made, it wouldn't be like this. Though I would prefer an actual true to the books version of The Hardy Boys coming to movie screens, I could still take this movie okay if it can be kept clean and respectful of the virtues of The Hardy Boys- but somehow I doubt that will honestly happen.
Title: Re: Hardy Men
Post by: hardygirl847 on November 02, 2010, 10:12:56 PM
Unfortunately, we'll probably get the hyped up version of the story full of swear words and dirty jokes. I certainly hope not, but they are going to do  what sells. Sadly, this is what sells. Of course I am totally speculating but if they are grown up, they will have more grown up issues, language, etc. Let's also consider what Tom and Ben have been in before as well. Enough said.

Another reason why I DON'T want this movie to happen.

Mac (hehe) I agree that Ben would probably be Frank and Tom would be Joe. Seems to be the most logical.

The show hopefully will be teenagers. I would rather have ATAC than Hardy men. I guess it all depends on how they are portrayed and how well they can adapt the characters. I don't need every episode to be one of the books...BUT Frank and Joe should still be Frank and Joe from the books. Well...as much as possible. I'd like to see the same supporting characters as well.

It would be a shame to do anything else. I see your points though Spencer about the previous series not being congruent to the books.

I guess we shall see..