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Title: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: SkyWarp on August 05, 2010, 12:56:00 PM
Break-Up , the second graphic novel in the new Hardy Boys New Casefiles graphic novel series from Papercutz, is now up on Amazon for pre-order (http://www.hardyboyscasefiles.com/store/index.php?isbn=1597072427).  A large version of the cover may be found at the Macmillan web site (http://us.macmillan.com/CMS400/uploadedFiles/MacmillanSite/Non-Menu_Items/bookseller_services/Winter11PZ_cropped_reduced.pdf).

(http://www.hardyboyscasefiles.com/images/comingsoon/GNCF_002.jpg)
Title: Re: Graphic Novel New Casefile #2
Post by: Q on August 05, 2010, 02:46:38 PM
Do you think that the Hardy Boys might be splitting up?
Title: Re: Graphic Novel New Casefile #2
Post by: Bigfootman on August 16, 2010, 11:34:43 AM
http://us.macmillan.com/CMS400/uploadedFiles/MacmillanSite/Non-Menu_Items/bookseller_services/Winter11PZ_cropped_reduced.pdf
Here's the cover and a plot summery. The cover reminds me of "Brother Against Brother".

Plot summery:
Joe and Frank Experience irreconcilable differences!
The world-famous Hardy Boys have been solving mysteries for like
forever, but the unthinkable has finally happened ? Frank and Joe have
decided to no longer work together. Like Lennon and McCartney, Martin
and Lewis, Sonny and Cher, all things must pass. Will they continue as
agents of A.T.A.C. (American Teens Against Crime) separately?

Title: Re: Graphic Novel New Casefile #2
Post by: Q on August 16, 2010, 11:57:15 AM
There's not much else that the book could have been about.
Title: Re: Graphic Novel New Casefile #2
Post by: MacGyver on August 16, 2010, 01:56:01 PM
Oh no- they finally decided to make The Hardy Men movie and here's the comic book adaptation of the movie! ;D
Title: Re: Graphic Novel New Casefile #2
Post by: MacGyver on August 16, 2010, 02:16:38 PM
I do like the cover though! And Gerry Conway is a comics name I've heard bandied about before- he's pretty good. Should be interesting to see what he does with The Hardy Boys.
The cover looks like Ryu and Ken from Street Fighter getting ready to fight. 8)
Title: Re: Graphic Novel New Casefile #2
Post by: SDLagent on August 16, 2010, 03:09:09 PM
Sounds like it could be really interesting and different story. Or, if poorly done, a really bad story. We'll wait and see.

The cover is kind of lame. Not bad, but it could have been a lot better.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: tomswift2002 on August 18, 2010, 01:31:04 PM
Well, hopefully this will be the last comic with ATAC in it.

But did you see the sales figures for the Graphic Novels:  300,000 copies (about 60,000 copies per year) for The Hardy Boys GN's since 2005, and 350,000 (about 70,000/year) for Nancy Drew?  Not exactly the same level as the advertised 2 million for the Grosset & Dunlap, but still very impressive for books that are rarely in the bookstores.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: SDLagent on August 18, 2010, 02:41:17 PM
Quote from: tomswift2002 on August 18, 2010, 01:31:04 PM
Well, hopefully this will be the last comic with ATAC in it.

But did you see the sales figures for the Graphic Novels:  300,000 copies (about 60,000 copies per year) for The Hardy Boys GN's since 2005, and 350,000 (about 70,000/year) for Nancy Drew?  Not exactly the same level as the advertised 2 million for the Grosset & Dunlap, but still very impressive for books that are rarely in the bookstores.

Both the thought of no more ATAC and the sales figures make me happy.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: tomswift2002 on August 19, 2010, 05:15:52 PM
Well I'm not to sure where the sales figures place the Hardy Boys amongst the comics/graphic novels by the smaller Comic Book publishers (by smaller, I mean the ones that are not related to Marvel or DC), but from what Papercutz is saying, the HB and ND GN's may be their "bread and butter" series, and possible some of the better selling comic series.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: NancyDrew on August 19, 2010, 05:33:34 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on August 16, 2010, 01:56:01 PM
Oh no- they finally decided to make The Hardy Men movie and here's the comic book adaptation of the movie! ;D

LOL Dang it. And I was hoping we'd avoid that! Lol

Well I guess we'll see how this goes. Personally, I doubt it last past the bookends but I guess there's only one way to find out. I think it's one of those stories that can be either really awesome or really awful.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: hardygirl847 on September 22, 2010, 02:38:05 PM
The Hardy boys are fighting??! Oh no!!! lol It was bound to happen. Is it for real or a scheme of some sorts? When does this one come out? MARCH 15, 2011?! ARE YOU KIDDING?! UGH...mean.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: MacGyver on November 30, 2010, 11:00:59 AM
So now we know that the "break up" lasts at least through the second issue of The Hardy Boys graphic novel series and into the third issue of the Nancy Drew graphic novels. Will it be an ongoing thing for a while? Who knows? Frank and Joe have had some differences at times and this theme has been touched on to some degree in the past- but it's never been a really prolonged thing, I think- so that should be interested.
Previous similar situations would include- Season 3 of The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries- from what I understand, some of the episodes dealt with this a bit. One in particular
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: MacGyver on November 30, 2010, 11:39:17 AM
I was going to say that one episode in particular would be "Game Plan"- though I think there were some spars (not necessarily fisticuffs though) between Frank and Joe in other episodes. This is seen to a much milder degree in the '90s show as well.
You also have this sort of scenario in Brother Against Brother and Dead of Night (#11 and #80 in The Hardy Boys Casefiles), but those scenarios were a bit different since we had amnesia and "crazy juice" involved in both, respectively.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 11, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
Frank and Joe are a tad different in Season 3. I have to rewatch the 90s series to comment on that one. It's a rainy/snowy day...maybe I will go do that. :)

But anyways, Frank and Joe were less of a team in the last series. I felt like they went off on their own more. They were mainly together but worked solo more often. At least that's how it felt to me. Not sure why that was. Maybe it was trying to show them growing up?

As for the GN plotline, I am super excited. Of course I don't want them to hate each other or be permanently separated, BUT it's different. It's taking the stories, their relationship, etc to a whole new level. It's not safe to say yet if it will be done correctly and fans will embrace it. However, I am really looking forward to finding out.

Btw, does anyone know how the books are going to line up?

Book 1- Crawling with Zombies
Book 2 Break up
Book 3- With ND or a whole different title?

Also, in a fight between Frank and Joe...who are you going to root for?
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: SDLagent on December 11, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
Quote from: hardygirl847 on December 11, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
Frank and Joe are a tad different in Season 3. I have to rewatch the 90s series to comment on that one. It's a rainy/snowy day...maybe I will go do that. :)

But anyways, Frank and Joe were less of a team in the last series. I felt like they went off on their own more. They were mainly together but worked solo more often. At least that's how it felt to me. Not sure why that was. Maybe it was trying to show them growing up?

I think they were just trying to change things up. Kind of backfired, I guess.

Quote from: hardygirl847 on December 11, 2010, 05:17:26 PMAs for the GN plotline, I am super excited. Of course I don't want them to hate each other or be permanently separated, BUT it's different. It's taking the stories, their relationship, etc to a whole new level. It's not safe to say yet if it will be done correctly and fans will embrace it. However, I am really looking forward to finding out.

Btw, does anyone know how the books are going to line up?

Book 1- Crawling with Zombies
Book 2 Break up
Book 3- With ND or a whole different title?

Also, in a fight between Frank and Joe...who are you going to root for?

I don't think the third title will be a crossover but I could be wrong. Maybe it'll be a two-part crossover. That would be a first!
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 12, 2010, 04:06:35 AM
If it's not a crossover that means HBs will have a separate Book 3? And ND's third book happens to be the crossover?
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: SDLagent on December 13, 2010, 04:34:27 PM
Yeah, I think so. This is book three of the Nancy Drew series.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: hardygirl847 on December 14, 2010, 10:11:13 AM
Hmm, interesting. Definitely one way to make me buy a ND GN. Oh well. I will do it for the boys.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: SDLagent on January 27, 2011, 02:41:40 AM
http://www.papercutz.com/hb/hb2case_pre1.html

Two page preview.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on January 27, 2011, 11:05:06 AM
LOL wow! I need to get that book! ;D
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: MacGyver on January 27, 2011, 02:30:33 PM
Whoa- definitely sounds pretty interesting. But I hope this thing doesn't last too long- I honestly don't like seeing Frank and Joe at odds like that.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on January 27, 2011, 02:33:18 PM
I think Joe could definetly beat Frank up though ;D
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: MacGyver on January 27, 2011, 02:55:48 PM
Hmmm- I don't know. Frank has some great martial arts training though.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on January 27, 2011, 02:57:05 PM
Well whevener Joe goes crazy in the Casefiles books, it always says that Frank knew he couldn't stop him......
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: MacGyver on January 27, 2011, 03:13:45 PM
True. I'm not sure if Frank and Joe are portrayed exactly the same in the Undercover Brothers continuity though- I think Frank and Joe are both portrayed as being about equally strong and athletic... - but Joe has always had that wild, impetuous side that seems to give him a little extra energy sometimes.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on January 27, 2011, 03:19:02 PM
When Frank is thinking clearly, he probably could beat Joe up... But if Joe was angry, well, he usually lets his emotions get the better of him and he'd probably just become this mindless person...

I want Joe to beat Frank ;D
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: SDLagent on January 27, 2011, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: JoeHardyRocks on January 27, 2011, 02:57:05 PM
Well whevener Joe goes crazy in the Casefiles books, it always says that Frank knew he couldn't stop him......

Well, in Brother Against Brother Joe had the element of surprise on his side. Plus, he thought Frank was killer so he was fighting like his life depended on it. Frank, on the other hand, was not.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: hardygirl847 on January 30, 2011, 12:22:51 AM
OMGOSH I am SOOO glad I just pre-ordered my copy the other day!! I keep checking sites but didn't come across that. Thanks for sharing!


The only thing is....fighting over whose fault it is could be a normal brotherly thing to do. That's not totally crazy of a concept. Going under the assumption that they are at odds for more than just that, it does sound like a bad thing.

But I blamed my little sister all the time but usually after she blamed me first. lol
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on January 30, 2011, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: JoeHardyRocks on January 27, 2011, 02:57:05 PM
Well whevener Joe goes crazy in the Casefiles books, it always says that Frank knew he couldn't stop him......

Have they actually come to blows or is it just with the criminals?  ???
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: Bigfootman on January 30, 2011, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on November 30, 2010, 11:39:17 AM
I was going to say that one episode in particular would be "Game Plan"- though I think there were some spars (not necessarily fisticuffs though) between Frank and Joe in other episodes. This is seen to a much milder degree in the '90s show as well.
You also have this sort of scenario in Brother Against Brother and Dead of Night (#11 and #80 in The Hardy Boys Casefiles), but those scenarios were a bit different since we had amnesia and "crazy juice" involved in both, respectively.
In Casefile#104 Wild Wheels, Frank and Joe got into a fight, and they also got into a fight in the book before it, Casefile #103 Campaign Of Crime. 
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on January 30, 2011, 04:41:28 PM
Quote from: Dinosaur Dan on January 30, 2011, 03:05:27 PM
In Casefile#104 Wild Wheels, Frank and Joe got into a fight, and they also got into a fight in the book before it, Casefile #103 Campaign Of Crime. 

What were they about? I can't remember.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: MacGyver on January 30, 2011, 07:54:55 PM
Okay- so we do have some other examples- cool. It's been so long since I've read those books that I really can't recall the details on those- but good to know anyway.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on January 31, 2011, 01:06:53 PM
Quote from: Hardy Boys UB Fan on January 30, 2011, 02:56:15 PM

Have they actually come to blows or is it just with the criminals?  ???

Whenever Joe goes crazy and he's attacking Frank with his fists or a shovel or something, they actually hurt each other. Like when Joe was trying to charge into the burning car in Dead on Target, Joe was pulling Frank towards it then Frank knocked him out with some karate thing... But that was only cuz Joe wasn't paying attention!
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: MacGyver on January 31, 2011, 01:14:16 PM
Well, in the cases of Dead on Target and Dead of Night, yes, technically Frank and Joe were fighting in those opening scenes with Joe trying to get to the burning car and the burning boat, respectively. But of course, Frank was mainly just trying to restrain Joe for his own safety rather than out of malice or spite or anything.
Joe swings a shovel around at Frank during their fight scene in Dead of Night, by the way.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: SDLagent on January 31, 2011, 10:36:26 PM
Quote from: Hardy Boys UB Fan on January 30, 2011, 02:56:15 PM

Have they actually come to blows or is it just with the criminals?  ???

Yes, Frank and Joe fight in Brother Against Brother and at least another Casefile. One of the latter ones.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: hardygirl847 on February 01, 2011, 02:37:52 PM
It's never been when both of them are in their right minds though. Joe was hysterical when Iola blew up and on drugs when he swung the shovel at Frank. In BAB, he didn't know who HE was let alone who Frank was.

So this looks like one of the first (if not THE first) time they are acting "normal" and are at odds.

I am super excited to see what happens...
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: SDLagent on February 02, 2011, 12:18:49 AM
Yeah, I think you're right.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: hardygirl847 on February 14, 2011, 04:44:19 PM
A month from tomorrow!!!! I am SUPER excited!
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: MacGyver on March 16, 2011, 12:58:42 AM
Well, it is in stores now- Just read Break-Up! - it was pretty good. Can't wait for the conclusion in the 3rd. Nancy Drew New Casefiles issue. :) 8)
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: SDLagent on March 17, 2011, 06:22:01 PM
Haven't got mine, yet. Good to wear it is a good read.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: hardygirl847 on March 20, 2011, 01:22:23 AM
I still have to reread it. I thought it was good but I was a little disappointed. I thought they would address certain things more and not leave us hanging as much as it did. I expected some of that, but I'm not loving the misleading back cover info.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: tomswift2002 on March 20, 2011, 03:32:20 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on March 16, 2011, 12:58:42 AM
Well, it is in stores now- Just read Break-Up! - it was pretty good. Can't wait for the conclusion in the 3rd. Nancy Drew New Casefiles issue. :) 8)

Unfortunately we are going to have to wait till August for that.
Title: Re: Break-Up, Hardy Boys New Casefile #2
Post by: MacGyver on March 20, 2011, 11:44:22 PM
I know- that seems like a really long time to conclude this story arc...