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Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« on: June 30, 2007, 11:49:01 PM »
Who do you think is a better couple,Joe and Iola or Joe and Vanessa ??? I think Joe and Vanessa are the better couple but thats just my opinion.
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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2007, 12:24:21 AM »
I haven?t read any with Vanessa so I can?t riley say, but I think Joe and Iola are pretty good.

Also I would have liked to see whet Joe and Iola relationship would have been like in the Casefiles, because the boys have a more serious relationship with there girlfriends in CFs. Since Joe/ Iola never appeared in the CFs  its kind of hard to compare Joe/Iola to Joe/ Vanessa.     

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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2007, 02:03:09 AM »
To be honest, I liked Joe/{insert casefile-guest-appearance girl here} better than either.

It was better for story development to have one of the boys not be attached.  And Iola became a pretty quick choice to be the one that was done away with.  This helped Joe's character stand out even more from Frank's.  I was never very happy with the emergence of a new girl for Joe, but Vanessa's character was unique (at least at first). 

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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2007, 07:24:23 PM »
The Casefiles were the first HB books I read, so when I read Dead on Target, I just never saw Iola as being the love of Joe's life! True she was his first love but the way the book read I just never felt that he cared for her all that much. I just recently started reading the Digests and in those he does seem to care but it seems like he cares for her more as a "good friend" than anything else.

I would have to say that I prefer Joe/Vanessa.

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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2007, 08:52:25 PM »
To be honest, I liked Joe/{insert casefile-guest-appearance girl here} better than either.

It was better for story development to have one of the boys not be attached.  And Iola became a pretty quick choice to be the one that was done away with.  This helped Joe's character stand out even more from Frank's.

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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2007, 10:53:16 PM »
I read a few of the digests too and your right Joe and Iola didn't seem as close as Joe and vanessa,thats why I think Joe and Vanessa are the better couple.
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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2007, 04:21:10 PM »
I've read all the Casefiles, and I must say that at the beginning of the series, the whole Iola being dead arc, gave Joe a different look on life.  Plus, it gave Joe that drive that he needed to drive the series.  But, as the series progressed, I think S&S wanted to heal a little bit, and get a steady girlfriend.  I loved the fight between Iola 4 and Vanessa at the end of Dead Of Night.
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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2007, 02:44:09 PM »
I DONT like Vanessa. IDK why. Joe was ok with Iola and with anyone else i just dont liek Vanessa.
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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2007, 10:22:35 AM »
Joe always felt better with Iola but I think he got over it when he took on Vanessa. Personally, I like him with Vanessa.
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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2007, 12:20:25 AM »
To be honest, I liked Joe/{insert casefile-guest-appearance girl here} better than either.

 ;D What a different perspective! I never thought of how much Joe's character grew from his girlfriend's death to the many girl guest appearances. On the other hand, I kept thinking -that Hardy Boy needs a girlfriend (that doesn't turn out to be the bad guy at the end of the book)...
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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2007, 09:55:48 AM »
I'll say. He's got a new girlfriend in like every book
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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2007, 10:20:11 AM »
Joe even chases after Sandy Swift in Time Bomb (HB/TS Ultra Thriller).
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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2007, 10:27:03 AM »
And what annoys me is, every book with a new girlfriend mentions either Iola, a car bomb or terrorists.
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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2007, 07:24:32 PM »
Yeah, and it seems like every time Frank starts to like someone else, she's evil. But, On topic, it's hard to chose becuase you never really saw Iola and Joe in the casefiles.
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Re: Joe/Iola or Joe/Vanessa
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2007, 08:52:26 PM »
I don't think I've read any actual Casefiles book with Vanessa yet.
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