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Hardy Boys Casefiles Discussion => Hardy Boys Casefiles => Topic started by: Bigfootman on February 22, 2011, 07:22:56 PM

Title: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Bigfootman on February 22, 2011, 07:22:56 PM

Here's some info and the first chapter of a Hardy Boys Casefile that was proposed but never published.  It would have been ghostwritten by Allen Appel.
http://home.comcast.net/~allenappel/writings/Hardys.htm

Here's some info on Allen Appel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Appel
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on February 22, 2011, 07:48:10 PM
I wish this would've gotten published! :( It sounds like one that I'd loved to have read. :) And that's saying something, since I'm pretty much a UB fan. ;D :o
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on February 22, 2011, 08:08:46 PM
Sounds pretty decent. I was starting to think that the Chet always eating jokes were getting to be a bit much, but it could've been a great story here. Nice find, Dinosaur Dan. Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on February 23, 2011, 11:39:54 AM
Wow, that sounded like a pretty cool story..... It's a bummer that we'll never get to read it...:(
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Bigfootman on February 23, 2011, 04:00:42 PM
At least we got the first chapter.
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: JoeHardyRocks on February 23, 2011, 05:26:55 PM
Which still isn't much. :-\
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on February 23, 2011, 05:34:03 PM
Quote from: JoeHardyRocks on February 23, 2011, 05:26:55 PM
Which still isn't much. :-\

I know. Why can't S&S put it out as a E-book?
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: tomswift2002 on February 24, 2011, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: Hardy Boys UB Fan on February 23, 2011, 05:34:03 PM
I know. Why can't S&S put it out as a E-book?

It could be that the first chapter is all the exists.  If the book was written as a proposed story that never got picked up, then "Chapter 1" might've just been a sample chapter that Mr. Appel prepared for the editors to read, and it might not have been even close to the final version.
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on February 28, 2011, 11:08:52 AM
Quote from: tomswift2002 on February 24, 2011, 07:34:16 PM
It could be that the first chapter is all the exists.  If the book was written as a proposed story that never got picked up, then "Chapter 1" might've just been a sample chapter that Mr. Appel prepared for the editors to read, and it might not have been even close to the final version.

I have a great idea.  8) Why don't the S&S put out all of the Casefiles as e-books for the Kindle? (They only have one out, why not the whole series?)  ??? I just got a Kindle and I know I'd buy them!  ;D  
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on February 28, 2011, 01:49:45 PM
I know Simon & Schuster has some of the Undercover Brothers books out as E-books and I'm pretty sure most of the later Digests titles (somewhere around #161 onward) were released as E-books.
And Darkness Falls seems to be the only, rather randomly chosen, E-book released for The Hardy Boys Casefiles. Given the growing popularity of Kindles and other such devices, it would be nice if the rest of the books were released as E-books. It would be a great way to get those books back out to the public eye again since the print forms are out-of-print. This could also be a good way to release the Original Text version of the first 38 books since those are really long out-of-print.
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on February 28, 2011, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on February 28, 2011, 01:49:45 PM
I know Simon & Schuster has some of the Undercover Brothers books out as E-books and I'm pretty sure most of the later Digests titles (somewhere around #161 onward) were released as E-books.
And Darkness Falls seems to be the only, rather randomly chosen, E-book released for The Hardy Boys Casefiles. Given the growing popularity of Kindles and other such devices, it would be nice if the rest of the books were released as E-books. It would be a great way to get those books back out to the public eye again since the print forms are out-of-print. This could also be a good way to release the Original Text version of the first 38 books since those are really long out-of-print.

I know. I would love that!  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: tomswift2002 on March 03, 2011, 06:36:26 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on February 28, 2011, 01:49:45 PM
And Darkness Falls seems to be the only, rather randomly chosen, E-book released for The Hardy Boys Casefiles. Given the growing popularity of Kindles and other such devices, it would be nice if the rest of the books were released as E-books. It would be a great way to get those books back out to the public eye again since the print forms are out-of-print.

Well, it could be that the only reason that Darkness Falls is even in-print in digital is that it was released in the UK in the Undercover Brothers and Simon & Schuster may've just put it up digitally over there as a UB title, with the Casefile version being put out in North America. 

But you also have to remember that with the older titles S&S probably doesn't have them in digital form anymore.  Sure they may have the old 3.5" floppies, but either the computers won't accept the floppies (either because they don't have the drives, or the programs don't recognize the really old files) or the discs are corrupt and the only copies S&S have are hard copies that were printed out decades ago.  So in order to release the books, S&S would have to pay someone to type or scan the books into a word processor in order to release them.  And if Darkness Falls hasn't made the money to warrant doing more Casefiles, then why would S&S bother?
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on March 03, 2011, 06:39:08 PM
Quote from: tomswift2002 on March 03, 2011, 06:36:26 PM
Well, it could be that the only reason that Darkness Falls is even in-print in digital is that it was released in the UK in the Undercover Brothers and Simon & Schuster may've just put it up digitally over there as a UB title, with the Casefile version being put out in North America. 

But you also have to remember that with the older titles S&S probably doesn't have them in digital form anymore.  Sure they may have the old 3.5" floppies, but either the computers won't accept the floppies (either because they don't have the drives, or the programs don't recognize the really old files) or the discs are corrupt and the only copies S&S have are hard copies that were printed out decades ago.  So in order to release the books, S&S would have to pay someone to type or scan the books into a word processor in order to release them.  And if Darkness Falls hasn't made the money to warrant doing more Casefiles, then why would S&S bother?

Is there a difference between the US and UK version? I have a Kindle and I'd love to own all of them!  ;D
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: tomswift2002 on March 03, 2011, 07:09:03 PM
Quote from: Hardy Boys UB Fan on March 03, 2011, 06:39:08 PM
Is there a difference between the US and UK version? I have a Kindle and I'd love to own all of them!  ;D

I have no idea if it was actually issued in ebook in the UK, but considering that the US ebook came out around the same time the UK version debutted in the UB series, so S&S may've just used the same file for both.  As far as I know the UK paperback UB version has a different cover and different text setting, but its the same as the US version.
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 07:44:27 PM
The UK version may have slight spelling differences from the US version though. They may have what's called an "Anglicized" version of the book. (i.e. An "apartment" is called a "flat", a "truck" is called a "lorry", "tire" is spelt "tyre", etc.)
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on March 03, 2011, 07:47:33 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 07:44:27 PM
The UK version may have slight spelling differences from the US version though. They may have what's called an "Anglicized" version of the book. (i.e. An "apartment" is called a "flat", a "truck" is called a "lorry", "tire" is spelt "tyre", etc.)

Lorry! LOL!  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 07:50:18 PM
That's what they call it in England. :)
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on March 03, 2011, 07:58:31 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 07:50:18 PM
That's what they call it in England. :)

All my UK education comes from shows made by -- you guessed it -- the BBC!  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:22:47 PM
Most of mine comes from growing up with BBC shows and experiencing its influence- and mainly from reading Enid Blyton books. :) 8)
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on March 03, 2011, 08:35:05 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:22:47 PM
Most of mine comes from growing up with BBC shows and experiencing its influence- and mainly from reading Enid Blyton books. :) 8)

Are you from the UK?  ???
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:36:05 PM
No. But I've been around.
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: AlwaysAJoefan on March 03, 2011, 08:37:03 PM
Quote from: Hardy Boys UB Fan on March 03, 2011, 07:47:33 PM
Lorry! LOL!  ::) ;D

Trucks were called "lorries" in Thomas the Tank Engine.  ;D
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:37:53 PM
There you go. :D
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on March 03, 2011, 08:38:56 PM
Quote from: AlwaysAJoefan on March 03, 2011, 08:37:03 PM
Trucks were called "lorries" in Thomas the Tank Engine.  ;D

That's a kids show. I think it was made by the BBC!
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: AlwaysAJoefan on March 03, 2011, 08:39:55 PM
Quote from: Hardy Boys UB Fan on March 03, 2011, 08:38:56 PM
That's a kids show. I think it was made by the BBC!

I'm not sure who made it, but it's a good little kid show.  ;) :D
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:44:27 PM
The book series is written by an Anglican minister Rev. W. Awdry and his son, Christopher. :)
He, the book series and the TV series are all British. 8)
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: AlwaysAJoefan on March 03, 2011, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:44:27 PM
The book series is written by an Anglican minister Rev. W. Awdry and his son, Christopher. :)
He, the book series and the TV series are all British. 8)

The British do make some good entertainment. Take Hornblower.  8)
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:46:38 PM
Take Mr. Bean ;D 8)
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: AlwaysAJoefan on March 03, 2011, 08:47:58 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:46:38 PM
Take Mr. Bean ;D 8)

What's that?
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:50:35 PM
An absolutely hilarious British sitcom. :)
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on March 03, 2011, 08:51:06 PM
Doctor Who and Torchwood are great BBC shows!  ;D
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:52:14 PM
http://www.mrbean.co.uk/uk/

And yes- Doctor Who is absolutely classic!
1963-1989 is a pretty good long run for a sci-fi show! (Longest ever run actually.)
I love the classic series, but the newer version is cool too.
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: AlwaysAJoefan on March 03, 2011, 08:52:59 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:50:35 PM
An absolutely hilarious British sitcom. :)

I'll have to look around for it.  8)
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:59:16 PM
Oh yeah- it's definitely worth it. You may also like to check out the movie versions- Bean: The Movie and Mr. Bean's Holiday are both hilarious too. (But the first one is PG-13 for a reason; it unfortunately has some tawdry humor and language in there - you may just want to stick with the second one I mentioned. That film is rated G and it is absolutely hilarious and clean overall.)
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on March 04, 2011, 02:14:55 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on March 03, 2011, 08:52:14 PM
http://www.mrbean.co.uk/uk/ (http://www.mrbean.co.uk/uk/)

And yes- Doctor Who is absolutely classic!
1963-1989 is a pretty good long run for a sci-fi show! (Longest ever run actually.)
I love the classic series, but the newer version is cool too.

I hate the classic series!  ::) The newer version is great!  ;D 8) Can't wait for series six! ;D
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on March 04, 2011, 02:21:53 PM
Okay- well, then! ;D (j/k)
I've only seen some various episodes of the classic series, but I like most all the Doctors pretty well. I've seen some of the very first ones with William Hartnell and I enjoyed it pretty well. But of course, Tom Baker is iconic with his hat and scarf- the 4th. Doctor is probably my favorite, but I enjoy all of them.The Five Doctors is a really great one to watch with all the crossovers.
Do you know if the new series has done any crossovers where the Doctor has met some of his past generations?
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: Hardy Boys UB Fan on March 04, 2011, 02:51:57 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on March 04, 2011, 02:21:53 PM
Okay- well, then! ;D (j/k)
I've only seen some various episodes of the classic series, but I like most all the Doctors pretty well. I've seen some of the very first ones with William Hartnell and I enjoyed it pretty well. But of course, Tom Baker is iconic with his hat and scarf- the 4th. Doctor is probably my favorite, but I enjoy all of them.The Five Doctors is a really great one to watch with all the crossovers.
Do you know if the new series has done any crossovers where the Doctor has met some of his past generations?

No. He hasn't. I like the new Doctor. Matt Smith is cool!
Title: Re: Murder At the Mint
Post by: MacGyver on March 04, 2011, 06:15:13 PM
Too bad- it'd be cool if they did an anniversary uniting all the Doctors still alive.