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Hardy Boys Casefiles Discussion => Hardy Boys Casefiles => Topic started by: Kerin on July 02, 2007, 11:14:18 PM

Title: operation phoenix
Post by: Kerin on July 02, 2007, 11:14:18 PM
Anybidy read the operatoin phoenix books?
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: SDLagent on July 03, 2007, 12:33:34 AM
I haven?t read them, but I rely, rely, rely, rely, rely, rely, won?t to!  My library doesn?t have them >:( :-[ :( :'(, so I look for them at every used book store I go to!
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: Kerin on July 03, 2007, 01:12:16 AM
It took me awile to find them too.I read the first one without noticing it was part of a set,when I got to the end it let off with a big cliffhanger.After that I went crazy looking for them.I finaly found them,and finished them.They were rely good.You could try looking for them on the internet,like on Amazon .com,they have lots of Hardy boys book there.
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Post by: tomswift2002 on July 03, 2007, 08:06:10 PM
Operation Phoenix, boy that was the Casefiles Best of Both Worlds.  But that trilogy is also considered by many to be the last of the Casefiles that Simon & Schuster cared about, and the beginning of the new Casefiles that ran more like Digests.  I remember reading Operation Phoenix for the first time in 1995.  The Keys Public School Library had most of the Casefiles series, and I was in Grade 5 when I first read No Mercy.  I remember asking myself what was going on and not liking the story, and returning the book, and then a few weeks later, checking out Endangered Species, and not liking the story all that much at the beginning, but by the end I was wanting more.  Sad part is, by the time I got around to getting those volumes (1998), Endangered Species and The Phoenix Equation had gone out-of-print, so I was only able to get No Mercy, but then in 2001 I found the other two volumes in the local used bookstore. 

But one volume that you should also consider as an epilogue to the Phoenix mini-series is A Hardy Boys and Tom Swift Ultra Thriller: Time Bomb.  The story in that book takes place about two weeks after Phoenix and actually has references to the Hardy's father being killed.
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: Kerin on July 03, 2007, 10:30:57 PM
you should also consider as an epilogue to the Phoenix mini-series is A Hardy Boys and Tom Swift Ultra Thriller: Time Bomb


I'll have too see if I can find it,it sounds good.Thanks. ;D
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Post by: tomswift2002 on July 04, 2007, 10:26:57 AM
Both Time Bomb and the follow up Hardy Boys/Tom Swift Ultra Thriller The Alien Factor are rare, since each book only went through one printing before being discontinued.  Time Bomb went out of print in June of 1996 (I remember that because I tried to order the book in June 96, and at first it was still in print, but then I got a call around the 15th of the month from the bookstore and was told that S&S had just declared the book out-of-print a day before), The Alien Factor went out of print during August 1998.  My mother had tried to get it for my birthday in April of that year, but the book had been backordered, and then in August, she got a call saying that S&S had put it out of print.  So, the books are rare, but they are really good books. 
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: tomswift2002 on July 04, 2007, 10:32:12 AM
I forgot to mention this, but while the book doesn't mention anything, the second Hardy Boys/Tom Swift Ultra Thriller, in my opinion, is a prequel to the Ring Of Evil trilogy from the summer of 1993.  I'm saying that because the book was published in June of 1993, the same month as Ring of Evil #1, so I'm guessing that S&S was trying to have a story that led into the series, just like Time Bomb led out.
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: tomswift2002 on July 04, 2007, 03:26:01 PM
I just want to clarify on thing about my earlier posts.  I already have the two Ultra Thrillers.  I was just posting that info about the books being very hard to find for other people who are looking for the books.  I also posted the dates the books went out-of-print so that people would know that it has been over ten years to just under ten years since the books went out-of-print.
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: SkyWarp on July 04, 2007, 05:18:00 PM
Anything tom swift related appears tough to find for me. 
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Post by: tomswift2002 on July 04, 2007, 09:24:54 PM
Agreed. Tom Swift is one of the most highly-desired book series in history.  I recall that back in 2000 I was in a bookstore in Winnipeg, and I found a copy of Tom Swift And His Electric Hydrolung and Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys Supermystery: Shock Waves, and I asked the owner if he had any more Tom Swift, and he told me that he didn't, but that he had just had a bus driver come in that morning with a Tom Swift under his arm, and when the owner asked if the driver wanted to sell it, the driver said "No" right away.
But, also with the Ultra Thrillers, there are a couple of markets out there.  The Tom Swift Market, Hardy Boys Market, Time Travel market and the Sci-FI market, possible more.  So there are probably a lot of people who would want the two books for different reasons.
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: Kerin on July 05, 2007, 01:04:01 AM
You could try finding the Tom Swift books on the internet.Thats how I get alot of my books,I go pick out two or three books my mom ordes them and I pay her back by doing extra chores that she usally pays me for.Thats how I get most of my books,we don't have that many bookstores around here.
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: Centrion on July 08, 2007, 08:19:19 AM
I found Time Bomb for 25 cents at my library. I only read Alien Factor once, and it isn't in any libraries. I did read the Phoienx trilogy, except for the 2nd book, unfortunately.
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Post by: 003Robin457 on December 18, 2008, 06:16:39 PM
I ordered OP #1 and OP #2 off Amazon and found OP #3 in a used books store. And I also allready have HB/TS Time Bomb. 8) That's My Christmas Break Reading.
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Post by: SDLagent on December 18, 2008, 07:42:03 PM
Enjoy.
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: Bigfootman on December 26, 2008, 06:44:19 AM
I read the first and second book and got the first book for chistmas! Looking for the third....
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: tomswift2002 on December 28, 2008, 04:54:46 PM
Quote from: Dinosaur Dan on December 26, 2008, 06:44:19 AM
I read the first and second book and got the first book for chistmas! Looking for the third....

How did you like Endangered Species (which I guess you now have two copies of!) & No Mercy?
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: Bigfootman on December 29, 2008, 06:42:49 AM
Acculy I only, have 1 copy, the first time I read it was from the libary. I like No Mercy better, in fact even better then the Borderline Case.
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: tomswift2002 on December 30, 2008, 03:15:12 PM
The funny thing with No Mercy is that it was the last book in the Operation: Phoenix trilogy to fall into the out-of-print categories.  Endangered Species & The Phoenix Equation both went out-of-print in the summer of 1998, whereas No Mercy was still in print till about 2004.

Weird, huh?
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Post by: Bigfootman on December 30, 2008, 04:49:12 PM
Ya, that is very odd... :o
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Post by: SDLagent on December 30, 2008, 09:05:24 PM
It wouldn't be that strange if it was just a few months difference, or even a year...but six years? Wow.
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Post by: tomswift2002 on December 31, 2008, 09:57:14 AM
Of course I find that in most trilogies the middle book of trilogy is always the book that sells the worst.  Since I guess most people just want to read the beginning of the story and the end of the story, and yet they don't want to read the "meat & potatoes" of the story!  I've got a copy of the Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens trilogy Millenium from the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine line of books, and I got all three books at the same time, and yet books 1 & 3 are second printings, whereas the 2nd volume in the trilogy is a first printing.  And, in case some are wondering if I bought that trilogy off a bookstore shelf, the answer is no, since I had to order in all three books, so from the warehouse of the bookstore I got all three books, and the warehouse obviously had at the time second printings of books 1 & 3, while the warehouse only had first printings of the 2nd book. 

I still think its odd how people want to read only the "end" book of a trilogy.
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: Bigfootman on February 10, 2009, 05:33:54 PM
Read the third book and was not impresed.
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: tomswift2002 on February 10, 2009, 05:55:28 PM
Quote from: Dinosaur Dan on February 10, 2009, 05:33:54 PM
Read the third book and was not impresed.


How so?
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: SDLagent on February 10, 2009, 07:21:03 PM
You didn't like Operation Phoenix?
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Post by: Bigfootman on February 18, 2009, 06:26:35 PM
Quote from: SDLagent on February 10, 2009, 07:21:03 PM
You didn't like Operation Phoenix?

No, look at my top 30 Hardy Boys casefiles, and you will find it. I just didn't think it was as good as the others.

Quote from: tomswift2002 on February 10, 2009, 05:55:28 PM
How so?

It seemed like they were just running around randomly, and the fights warn't as good as no mercy.
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: hexton on August 24, 2009, 04:31:09 PM
Still haven't read Phoenix Equation. No Mercy was my second Casefile, and probably is still my favorite. Endangered Species was an entertaining read. Does Phoenix Equation hold up to these two well?
Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: kosmicdust on April 11, 2013, 07:04:43 PM
Here's my scan of the UK edition of The Phoenix Equation, which is a little larger than the US paperback, and as a result, shows an extra smidgeon of Brian Kotzky's fantastic artwork:


And a bonus scan of Mayhem in Motion:

Title: Re: operation phoenix
Post by: MacGyver on April 12, 2013, 12:39:39 PM
Cool! Thanks for the scans. :) 8)
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Post by: MacGyver on April 12, 2013, 12:50:37 PM
One thing I always wondered about Mayhem in Motion- how'd they get the rights to depict My Pet Monster on the cover? :) 8)